QBZ-191 service rifle family

Aniah

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It isn't really sufficient enough to simulate the weight of the real qbz191 when the entire thing is made out of plastic.

Even if you slap a suppressor and a eotech on it, there wouldn't be a very noticable difference
It's close enough, It simply needs to perform all functions the real gun has except for firing a bullet. The training is still relevant even if the weight is not one-to-one.
 

Schwerter_

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It isn't really sufficient enough to simulate the weight of the real qbz191 when the entire thing is made out of plastic.

Even if you slap a suppressor and a eotech on it, there wouldn't be a very noticable difference
I was under the impression that these training rifles have the same weight and CoM as the real weapons. The outside being plastic doesn’t mean that by default the weight isn’t the same.
 

Heliox

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Can help test weight and feel. It's not like they can't bring this into a CQC area and train themselves with the added length.
It isn't really sufficient enough to simulate the weight of the real qbz191 when the entire thing is made out of plastic.

Even if you slap a suppressor and a eotech on it, there wouldn't be a very noticable difference

The training weapon (blue rifle) I have used have a metal bar and possibly other weights embedded inside for weight and rigidity. CoG and overall feel of the weapon s maintained - but it does bounce differently when dropped ;)

I'm not sure how the PLA uses theirs but we only ever use them when we have a combination of inexperienced trainees undergoing high loss or really really high wear activities like watermanship trg where the entire weapon spends large amounts of time in salt water or a dropped weapon is irretrievable.

In almost all other training scenarios (eg. operational troops doing watermanship), actual weapons are used. Even MOUT LFX rehersals are done with actual weapons with high-vis blank attachments and lots of checking - never trg (blue) weapons.
 

Heliox

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It isn't really sufficient enough to simulate the weight of the real qbz191 when the entire thing is made out of plastic.

Even if you slap a suppressor and a eotech on it, there wouldn't be a very noticable difference
I was under the impression that these training rifles have the same weight and CoM as the real weapons. The outside being plastic doesn’t mean that by default the weight isn’t the same.

Forget to add, minor detail, for the trg weapon I've used - the blue material is not plastic. It's rubber, possibly vulcanised, hence the comment that it bounces differently. It's not plastic at all nor anyway similar to the polymers in the rifles I have come across.
 

polati

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joke of a video:

>Doesn't explain or answer the video title (Doesn't say in any way why the "QBZ191 is worse than you think"
>"any change in the PLA's organization/design philosophy must be copied from the US wahwahwah"
>Talks more about politics, ranks, the entire PLA
>Barely actually talks about the rifle itself
>Only part actually on the rifle is from a soldier's quote, which is very positive (completely contradictory to the title)
 
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