If I may be so blunt, can I ask what some of our American or Western members think of China? Or rather, do people think the assessment of the articles that Kyli posted are accurate (of the American fear/anxiety over PRC)?
The relationship between America and China should be like, if you'll bear with me here, that between two crime bosses you often see in the movies. They don't like each other and they talk a lot of trash, but they realize that they'll have easier lives if they cooperate, meet every once in a while to talk out issues and find ways to do business. .
As an American, I'm pretty accepting of the rise of China. I think trying to stop China from running its natural course in history is like trying to build an everlasting sandcastle; you can keep trying, but the ocean will wash it away eventually. I don't believe that the rise of China is necessarily a bad thing for America or the world. It's just one of those big historical forces.
With that said, I don't believe that America should be deferential to China, or that we should compromise our important interests one bit. The relationship between America and China should be like, if you'll bear with me here, that between two crime bosses you often see in the movies. They don't like each other and they talk a lot of trash, but they realize that they'll have easier lives if they cooperate, meet every once in a while to talk out issues and find ways to do business. If America realizes that its moving past the point where it is necessary/able to be the dominant power in all areas, and if China is willing to eventually cooperate with America on currency, climate and maybe Iran, I think China and America will be able to get along just fine.
Hu's visit will lay basis for next 30 years: Obama
Posted: 19 January 2011 2237 hrs
WASHINGTON - US President Barack Obama said Wednesday a visit by his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao would lay the basis for future ties, saying the two nations had an "enormous stake" in each other's success.
"With this visit we can lay the foundation for the next 30 years," Obama said as he welcomed Hu to the White House.
"We have an enormous stake in each other's success. In an interconnected world, in a global economy, nations including our own will be more prosperous and more secure when we work together," he told a ceremony.
Hu in return said that since Obama took office "our cooperation in various fields has produced fruitful results and our relations have achieved new progress."
Obama however did stray into one of the areas of contention between the two nations, that of human rights.
"History shows that societies are more harmonious, nations are more successful and the world is more just when the rights and responsibilities of all nations and all people are upheld," Obama said.
- AFP/ir
By MATTHEW PENNINGTON and JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Matthew Pennington And Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press – 47 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao sparred over human rights on Wednesday, with Obama declaring that Americans believe such rights are among "core views" and Hu declaring China had made progress but "a lot still needs to be done" to improve his country's record.
The concern over human rights was balanced against U.S. happiness about what Obama said was $45 billion in expected new export sales for the U.S. because of business deals with China cemented by the summit meeting of the world's two largest economies. Obama said those deals would help create 235,000 U.S. jobs.
"I absolutely believe China's peaceful rise is good for the world, and it's good for America," Obama said, addressing a major concern in Beijing that the United States wants to see China's growth constrained.
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"We welcome China's rights. We just want to make sure that (its) rise occurs in a way that reinforces international norms, international rules, and enhances security and peace as opposed to it being a source of conflict either in the region or around the world."
The two leaders vowed closer cooperation on critical issues ranging from increasing trade to fighting terrorism. But they also stood fast on differences, especially over human rights.
Obama acknowledged that differences on rights were "an occasional source of tension between our two governments."
He said at a joint news conference with Hu at the White House, "We have some core views as Americans about the universality of certain rights: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly."
Obama said he drove that home forcefully in his discussions with the Chinese leader, but "that doesn't prevent us from cooperating in these other critical areas."
For Hu's part, he at first didn't respond to an American reporter's question on human rights differences between the two countries. Pressed about it in a later question, he said technical difficulties in translation had prevented him from hearing the question.
Hu said that each of his meetings with Obama — eight including Wednesday's — the rights issue had been raised.
"China is always committed to the protection and promotion of human rights," Hu said.
He said that China had "made enormous progress" in its practices.
"China recognizes and also respects the universality of human rights," he said. "It recognizes and also respects the universality of human rights. At the same time, we need to take into account the different national circumstances. China is a developing country with a huge population, and also a developing country in a crucial stage of reform."
China "faces many challenges in social and economic development. A lot still needs to be done in China on human rights," the Chinese president and Communist Party leader said.
He said that while China "is willing to engage in dialogue" with the U.S. and other nations on human rights issues, countries must exercise "the principle of noninterference in each other's internal affairs."
On another contentious issue, Obama said that the United States continues to believe that China's currency is undervalued, making Chinese imports cheaper in the United States and other countries and U.S. goods more expensive in China.
"I told President Hu that we welcomed China's increasing the flexibility of its currency," Obama said. But, he added, the yuan, also called the renminbi, "remains undervalued, that there needs to be further adjustment in the exchange rate, and that this can be a powerful tool for China boosting domestic demand and lessening the inflationary pressures in their economy."
In a sign of the growing economic bonds between the two superpowers, Obama said the countries had made business deals that would mean $45 billion in new U.S. exports. Obama also said China was taking significant steps to curtail the theft of intellectual property and expand U.S. investment.
Obama said China had become "one of the top markets for American exports" and that these exports have helped to support a half million U.S. jobs.
Hu said he and Obama had agreed to "share expanding common interests."
"We both agreed to further push forward the positive cooperative and comprehensive China-U.S. relationship and commit to work together to build a China-U.S. cooperative partnership based on mutual respect and mutual benefit, so as to better benefit people in our own countries and the world over," Hu said.
Hu, speaking through a translator, said both countries should "respect each other's sovereignty, territorial integrity and development interests."
Obama said, "I absolutely believe China's peaceful rise is good for the world, and it's good for America."
As both countries continue to recover from the global economic crisis — a recovery that began in China well before it did in the U.S. and other developed nations — the United States increasingly sees China as a market for its goods, Obama said.
"We want to sell you all kinds of stuff," Obama told Hu. "We want to sell you planes, we want to sell you cars, we want to sell you software. ...
"And as President Hu and his government refocuses the economy on expanding domestic demand, that offers opportunity for U.S. businesses that ultimately translates into jobs."
(This version CORRECTS 'sale' to 'sales' in 2nd paragraph)
Chinese President Hu Jintao and U.S. President Barack Obama shake hands with crowds at a welcoming ceremony at the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, capital of the United States, Jan. 19, 2011. (Xinhua/Li Xueren)
Chinese President Hu Jintao speaks at a welcoming ceremony held by U.S. President Barack Obama on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, the United States, Jan. 19, 2011. (Xinhua/Huang Jingwen)
WASHINGTON, Jan. 19 (Xinhua) -- Chinese President Hu Jintao said here Wednesday that his state visit to the United States is aimed at increasing mutual trust, enhancing friendship, deepening cooperation and pushing forward the positive, cooperative and comprehensive China-U.S. relationship for the 21st century.
"I hope that through this visit, our two countries will advance the positive, cooperative and comprehensive relationship and open a new chapter in our cooperation as partners," Hu said at a welcome ceremony on the South Lawn of the White House.
Hu and U.S. President Barack Obama stood on a small stage with Chinese and U.S. flags as the national anthem of China, then U.S. national anthem being played.
Hu, who was greeted by Obama and his wife upon his arrival at the White House, was to hold talks with Obama shortly after the ceremony, the eighth meeting between the two leaders in two years.
The two leaders inspected the honor guard and then walked a short distance to shake hands with visitors.
The two presidents watched as a pipe and drum unit marched by dressed in colonial era uniforms. The unit played Yankee Doodle, among other selections.
Both countries "share broad common interests and important common responsibilities" and should adopt a long-term perspective and seek common ground while reserving differences, Hu told Obama.
U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were present at the ceremony.
The Chinese president's state visit was widely deemed as crucial for future development of relations between the two countries. As China's global influence mounts and profound changes reshape the world, China-U.S. relations bear far-reaching significance to the two countries and the world at large.
Hu has been welcomed with pomp-filled ceremonies since he stepped on American soil Tuesday.
He was greeted on arrival at Andrews Air Force Base Tuesday by Vice President Joe Biden, and a small private dinner with Obama followed at the White House in honor of the visiting Chinese leader.
An opulent state dinner, the grandest of White House soirees, was planned for Wednesday evening in Hu's honor.
The setting reflects the rising significance of the relationship between China, the world's largest developing country, and the United States, the world's largest developed nation.
"Our cooperation as partners should be based on mutual respect...on mutual benefit," Hu said at the welcome ceremony.
China and the United States should respect each other's choice of development path and core interests, and seek to learn from each other through exchanges and achieve win-win progress through cooperation, Hu said.
Cooperation as partners between the two sides should also be based on joint efforts to meet challenges and the extensive involvement of the people, Hu added.
The Chinese president pointed out that to pursue peace, development and cooperation is the irresistible trend of our time.
Welcoming China's rise "as a strong, prosperous member" of the community of nations, Obama said the U.S. and China "have an enormous stake in each other's success."
"Nations including our own will be more prosperous and secure when we work together," Obama said.
"We learn from our people. Chinese students and educators, including the Chinese Americans here today, work together to make progress every day. We can cooperate in a spirit of mutual respect for our mutual benefit," Obama said.
During Hu's stay in the United States, Chinese officials said, Hu also was scheduled to meet people from various walks of life in the United States, and would take the opportunity to elaborate on China's domestic and foreign policies and on how to advance his country's ties with the United States in the new era.
The two countries were expected to sign a package of cooperation documents during Hu's visit and announce a host of new cooperation projects in a variety of sectors, including economy, trade, energy, environmental protection, infrastructure development, and science and technology.
The Obama administration has attached great importance to Hu's visit, emphasizing the rising importance of American cooperation with China.
"President Hu's visit will highlight the importance of expanding cooperation between the United States and China on bilateral, regional, and global issues, as well as the friendship between peoples of our two countries," the White House said in a statement when announcing the visit last month.
"The president looks forward to welcoming President Hu to Washington to continue building a partnership that advances our common interests and addresses our shared concerns," the statement said.
After their talks on Wednesday, Hu and Obama were to meet with U.S. and Chinese business leaders at the White House to discuss ways to expand trade and investment opportunities between China and the United States.
Since Obama took office two years ago, the overall development of China-U.S. relations has been stable despite some friction between the two countries.
Hu and Obama agreed to build a "positive, cooperative and comprehensive China-U.S. relationship for the 21st century" during their first meeting in London in April 2009.
In November 2009, Obama paid a state visit to China, during which the two sides reiterated that they were "committed to building a positive, cooperative and comprehensive China-U.S. relationship for the 21st century, and will take concrete actions to steadily build a partnership to address common challenges."
China and the United States are now each other's second largest trading partner. Two-way trade is expected to top 380 billion U.S. dollars in 2010. China has been the United States' fastest-growing major export market for nine consecutive years.
In a written interview with The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal Monday, Hu said: "We both stand to gain from a sound China-U.S. relationship, and lose from confrontation."
"Both sides should keep to the right direction in the development of our relations, increase exchanges, enhance mutual trust, seek common ground while reserving differences, properly manage differences and sensitive issues and jointly promote the long-term, sound and steady development of China-U.S. relations," he said.
Hu, who is on his first state visit to the United States since Obama took office, will travel to Chicago on Thursday and wrap up his visit on Friday.