PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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Skywatcher said:
Well, the Soviet India class was a bit larger, though that was mostly used for transporting commandos, IIRC.
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Interesting.

I believe that the largest diesel electrics have been:

- I-400 Class (Japan) about 6,700 tons (3 Built)
- India Class (USSR) about 6,900 tons (2 built)
- Type 032 Class PRC about 6,700 tons (1 built, so far)

Very large diesel subs and all had different roles.
 
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joshuatree

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Jeff Head said:
Interesting.

I believe that the largest diesel electrics have been:

- I-400 Class (Japan) about 6,700 tons (3 Built)
- India Class (USSR) about 6,900 tons (2 built)
- Type 032 Class PRC about 6,700 tons (1 built, so far)

Very large diesel subs and all had different roles.
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I-400 was a sub aircraft carrier. Pretty interesting concept.
 
Jeff Head

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joshuatree said:
I-400 was a sub aircraft carrier. Pretty interesting concept.
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Yes it was. Three were built and two were deployed...but too late to accomplish their mission, and too little by that time.

I expanded on the concept significantly with 40,000 ton nuclear powered vessels in my
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China has sent a submarine to the Gulf of Aden to help in counter piracy operations — a first for the People’s Liberation Army Navy’s (PLAN) submarine fleet, according to the Chinese Ministry of National Defense. In a press briefing last week, ministry spokesman Col. Geng Yansheng confirmed a PLAN submarine was headed off the coast of Somalia to join a Chinese task force effort to piracy in the region.

News of the submarine emerged earlier this month when what appeared to be a Song-class diesel attack submarine (SSK) took on fuel and provisions in Sri Lanka from Sept. 7 to 14, raising questions if China was expanding submarine operations into the Indian Ocean.

“What needs to be pointed out is that it is a common practice for navies of all countries to have their submarines and ships replenished at certain intervals at ports,” Geng said.

A later statement from the ministry indicated the submarine was not part of a larger Chinese push into the Indian Ocean.

Still, the submarine’s presence has caused concern for India and other countries in the region wary of China expanding operations beyond the Western Pacific and the South China Sea.

China has spent considerable funds on infrastructure in ports like Sri Lanka’s Colombo and Pakistan in the Indian Ocean for years raising concerns of the Indian government.

“Chinese warships are deployed in the Indian Ocean Region and we are continuously monitoring them and see what is their deployment,” chief of the Indian Navy Adm. Robin Dhowan told reporters on Sept. 25.
“Along with it, our aircraft, submarines and warships are always deployed to face any challenge.”

India and China have also been at odds at the countries’ shared Himalayan land border.

Though China claims the visit by the attack boat was benign, the ambitious trek to the Gulf of Aden is a test of the logistics needed to operate its submarines further afield.

“The port call in Colombo highlights China’s need for logistics facilities for ships and submarines deployed along its sea lines of communications,” read a Tuesday analysis in Jane’s Defense Weekly.
”The fact that the facilities used were at one of two ports developed by China in Sri Lanka, as it has also done in Pakistan and Myanmar, is likely to reinvigorate the debate about Chinese construction of maritime infrastructure in the [Indian Ocean Region.”

It’s unclear when the submarine — and its accompanying tender — will join the PLAN flotilla in the Gulf of Aden. However, the length of the journey from China’s submarine base on Hainan Island is about 5,500 nautical miles. For the 2,200-ton Song, that journey could take up to three weeks, according to Jane’s.

Submarines have been used previously in counter-piracy operations as primarily surveillance platforms.
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Sept 25, Colombo: A Chinese Navy submarine's visit to Sri Lanka's Colombo Port prior to the Chinese President Xi Jinping's visit to the island nation last week is seen as China projecting its military power into Indian Ocean, according to Duowei News, a Chinese newspaper based in the United States.

The ChangZheng 2, a Type 091 Han-class nuclear-powered submarine has become the first Chinese submarine to visit Colombo Harbor in Sri Lanka according to China Military online.

The Chinese submarine has arrived at Colombo Harbor one day before the Chinese President began his visit on September 16.

In addition to the Changzheng 2, there were two other People's Liberation Army Navy warships in the harbor, the China Military online reported.

The Chinese Navy type-039 submarine "Great Wall No.329" and the submarine support ship "Changxing Island" of the North China Sea Fleet under the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) have reportedly visited Colombo Port from September 7 -14.

The ships have docked at the pier of Colombo International Container Terminals (CICT).

It is said that this is the first time for the Chinese Navy to send submarine to visit foreign country, and also the first time for the Chinese conventional submarine to be confirmed appearance in the Indian Ocean.

Taken together with the joint naval exercises with Iran launched Wednesday, this seems to suggest China's ambitions to project its military power into the Indian Ocean, Duowei said.
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Song 329 belong to SSF/32 Submarine Flotilla based to Yulin one of the last built version 039G1.

For Changzheng 2 in fact Han 402 normaly decommissioned before some years:confused:
 
asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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Or could be testing this concept

There is no question that submarines are no longer hunters of other subs of warships they launch land attack missiles and going forward will be used by special operations forces and launching under water unmanned vehicles
 
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