PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

bd popeye

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Have you gents seen these pics? Real or PS??? I got these at another forum.

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crobato

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Its real. Just someone inside the PLAN with a hobby in photography. I used to practice photography myself, what you see here are actually text book composition styles.
 

maozedong

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

good pic! two 093s in north China? oh! they are Song.
 
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kw64

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Have you gents seen these pics? Real or PS??? I got these at another forum.

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Why would those photos be PSed? It's just two plain'ol Song Class. On the other hand there are so many PSed photos on Chinese BBS, and soon people will start doubting a photo of a guy walking down the street as PSed ;)

On a more serious note, from the first photo it seems like Song doesn't have rubber noise reduction tiles on them...
 

crobato

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

The Songs in the two pictures are very likely to be the very same subs on both, on the very same pier. Rubber tile coating has been standard on Chinese subs for a while since the last decade and both subs should have it. Every Song are built with them right from the first one in the series.

There is actually one difference in one of the subs over the other and that sub, has a towed something after fitted on top of its tail fin, while the other still hasn't.
 

bd popeye

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I found this posted in another military forum..I have not read the PDF file. But judging from the responses in the thread it appears to be intresting.

A link to a pdf where you can find a review of the US Navy submarines forces by china.
The Winter 2008 issue of Naval War College Review has an excellent article about the People's Republic of China and the Submarine Service. Entitled Chinese Evaluations of the U.S. Navy Submarine Force, it is authored by founding director and three research faculty at the Naval War College's China Maritime Studies Institute.

According to the authors, there are at least five publications devoted to naval warfare in the PRC. In addition, there are dozens of technical journals. The authors examined over 1,000 articles from these publications and analyzed over 150 articles.

The article is divided into five main sections:

* Chinese reaction to current issues facing the U.S. Submarine Service

* Chinese evaluations of specific American submarine capabilities, including the conversion of four submarines to SSGN (Guided Missile Submarine) configuration


* Critical historical issues, including Chinese perception of U.S. Submarine operations during the Cold War


* How Chinese analysts believe their ASW (Anti-Submarine Warfare) force would match up against American submarines


* Chinese perceptions of the future of the American submarine service.

Finally, the authors close with a short summary, saying "Chinese strategists are keenly interested in the U.S. Navy's submarine force...There is clear evidence that Chinese naval analysts have enormous respect for U.S. submarines, submariners, and their weapons."

The full issue is available as an Adobe PDF at the Naval War College's Website. Be forewarned. The file is a 24.7MB download and may take a while to download.

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flyzies

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^^ I have read that before, and would highly recommend it. Great, interesting read it was...not just those articles, but the whole mag itself.
 

maozedong

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<China Youth Daily> Report: China Revelation new submarine development process: the greatest increase in several dozen meters deep submersible
China's submarine experts unanimously adopted on a certain type of submarine design accreditation, it shows that China's new submarine to achieve the development level of historic leap. Equipment Department of the Navy Institute in a military representative Dr. Huang Ja-Chaung, and ordered to participate in the development of this type of submarine management.

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PLA navy South Sea Fleet Yuan class submarine ongoing water rescue exercises
 

kw64

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Russians have claimed that the Chinese Yuan class is more expensive and far less capable than Kilo class. Is there any truth to such claim? I previously thought Yuan's overall capability should at least reach the standard of earlier versions of Kilo class.
 
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