PLAN Torpedos

lcloo

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Those are simply for moving this UUV via a crane or something. There is also no bomber on this planet capable of carrying this so no it is not going to be air launchable
How does this thing compare to air launch ballistic missile carried by H6N? We don't know if this thing is heavier or longer than the BM on H6N.
 

Tomboy

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How does this thing compare to air launch ballistic missile carried by H6N? We don't know if this thing is heavier or longer than the BM on H6N.
Why would you want to air launch a submarine again? The poseidon UUV weights around 100 tons as a reference, H-6 itself is only 34m long and this UUV seems to be around 20m long. There is absolutely no way this thing is air launched because first it provides little benefit, second you'll have to harden everything inside for high speed impact from getting air dropped and third there is no bomber in the world that can lift a 100 ton submarine.
 

tamsen_ikard

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Take note of the things in yellow and red circle. Yellow one looks like pylon attachment station, while the red one may be an attachment hook for towing by a ship or a submarine???

Also IIRC "A" on the first prefix of a designation usually indicate air launch munition, but this thing is so big can a H6K/J/N carry it? May be H6N?

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I am trying to find a strategic or tactical use for such a big torpedo. Is it like a ground launched torpedo against Carriers? A naval equivalent to the ASBMs?

Cause its too big to be launched by submarine.
 

Tomboy

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I am trying to find a strategic or tactical use for such a big torpedo. Is it like a ground launched torpedo against Carriers? A naval equivalent to the ASBMs?

Cause its too big to be launched by submarine.
Poseidon UUV is capable of being launched via torpedo tubes, its slightly larger than even this. But it will require specialized submarine to do so, the Russians have a modified Oscar II class submarine as a carrier and is allegedly building another 4 09851 class submarines based on the Borei designed to carry these. I guess the PLAN could order a special variant of the Type 095 to launch this.
 

tamsen_ikard

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Poseidon UUV is capable of being launched via torpedo tubes, its slightly larger than even this. But it will require specialized submarine to do so, the Russians have a modified Oscar II class submarine as a carrier and is allegedly building another 4 09851 class submarines based on the Borei designed to carry these. I guess the PLAN could order a special variant of the Type 095 to launch this.
Depends on the range of this torpedo though. If it has a range of thousands of KMs, then no need to launch it via a submarine. Just launch it from land. Then this torpedo can be guided via radio, Sat ISR, Drone ISR to get close to the carrier group.

If PLA is showing this right now when they don't have big submarines, then it means it should already be in service/close to service and thus cannot be launched by submarine. Which also reinforces my hunch that this is ground launched.
 

lcloo

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You cannot discount the possibility of H6N as a launching platform unless we can acertain affirmatively the weight of this huge "torpedo".

H6N ALBM
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Dante80

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You cannot discount the possibility of H6N as a launching platform unless we can acertain affirmatively the weight of this huge "torpedo".

H6N ALBM
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I mean, assuming that thing is not an empty cylinder but an actual torpedo, there is simply no way it could be carried by air. The rough dimensions simply make sure of it.

In other words, the default here is that this could never use H6N as a launching platform. If someone wishes to argue for it tho, go right ahead, as minute as the possibility may be.
 

lcloo

Major
On the other hand, this might be an Extra Large UUV instead of a torpedo. If this is the case, then the launching platform would be an auxiliary ship similar to PLAN's submarine rescue ship or a UUV tender.

Other than photo, we don't have any info on this thing. We just need more information. My post never said affirmatively H6N is the carrier. If it shows up on Sept 3rd, then we will know what this thing is.
 
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para80

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The attachments on the back are just for crane-use, as already noted. We can see broadly similar attachment points on other comparable UUVs and on Chinese concepts such as pictured below. It does not indicate airborne use.

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