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bd popeye

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More pix of the same exercise.

China's PLAN Marines participate in a war game in north China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, March 15, 2014. The marine corps with the Chinese navy (PLAN) on Friday concluded the war game to practice combat abilities in cold environments, according to military sources. (Xinhua/Zha Chunming)

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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Well, good theory, but I would have expected observers and refs to be issued with clearly different camo so the active participants don't get distracted or waste time trying to 'kill' them and instead focus only on the real opfor.

Also, maybe I wasn't clear before, but if you look, you will see that none of the troopers who lack receivers on their helmets have scopes (and by extension laser tags) on their rifles either. Only a few of them had radios, and those might indeed have been the observers and refs you describe, and some of the guys cutting wires and laying smoke could well have been helping to evolve the battlefield to simulate stuff like artillery and air strikes, but a lot those the guys and a couple of girls if my eyes are not failing me, with no MILES kit look to be active participants. They are taking cover and aiming their weapons.

Firstly, why bother with a blank firing weapon without laser tags? All they will be doing is making noise. Maybe that's the point, but why bother aiming and taking cover if that's the case?
Well Wolf You got me there. Only things I can think of is
A) the photos were posed and the photographer "fluffed" the line by adding extras to the line some of whom may have not been participants or were already out of there Laser Receivers.
B) if they really were participating then the unit was Cheating. It happens. Early Miles in the US was plagued by "Respawns" and other illegal acts.
C) they just did not have the right number of kits and part of the line was being judged by some other means.
D) they are wearing some other form of laser receiver that may be of a lower profile.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Firstly, why bother with a blank firing weapon without laser tags? All they will be doing is making noise. Maybe that's the point, but why bother aiming and taking cover if that's the case?

It's the vibration coming from firing blanks trigger the MILES laser to go off. Again like TerranEmpire says it has it's flaws because people can cheat simply by tapping onto the MILES box therefore no flash coming from the blanks and no location of the OPFOR. It's not the most perfect system in the world, but the whole entire exercise aim is to train field commanders in troop movements and communication.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Hmm in the US Miles is on something like generation Four, the PLA laser system seems to be still in like Gen two by now. Current American Miles locks the weapon after a death. So it seems likely they still have some development ahead of them.
and to step back and answer Wolf's question as to Camouflage and why Ref's would wear the same patterns. One they are still part of the military. Under the logic of having a special set just for ref's. It would require a uniform set just for that job. That would complicate logistics and make them stand out even more.
two they are embedded with units so if they wore a different uniform they would stand out and potentially draw more fire. So if its a hypothetical unit fighting in the desert the unit in action is wearing desert well the ref has woodland pattern now the opfor is going to spot the ref and the aim at his feet because that's where the training unit likely is. Of course in this case its a bit weird as the PLAMC is wearing that tropical blue navy stuff that is way out of its intended environment. Well the Opfor is wearing PLA desert. Its cost effective but a bit ridiculous and given the Chinese Military love of vanity camo patterns ism somewhat surprised that the Blue for doesn't have some kind of unique pattern just for them. Or doesn't wear a common foreign pattern like knock off Multicam or something. I know at first it might draw some ire but if its a common pattern its fairly reasonable to explain.
I know American Opfor has worn OD and tiger stripe during periods when the regular Army wore ACU and woodland/3color desert.
 

bd popeye

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do not like what I see in this photo.

Sailors unloading a helo that is turning it's rotors without any safety gear what so ever. No helmets , no float coats(life preservers). At a minimum they should have some hearing protection.

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Google's goofy translation

March 17, China Lake Naval Sea ship arrived in the mission, and the search and rescue mission Malaysia Airlines flight lost contact Haikou ship, ships and other vessels Mianyang convergence, and immediately the implementation of fuel, fresh water and non-staple food supply, providing a powerful search and rescue operations for the subsequent logistical and material support. Feng photo agency issued Daizong

Now, during the same evolution the sailors now at lease have life preservers.

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Equation

Lieutenant General
Maybe because the sailors at the bottom picture were more closer to the edge of the deck than those on the top picture perhaps?:confused:
 

bd popeye

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Maybe because the sailors at the bottom picture were more closer to the edge of the deck than those on the top picture perhaps?:confused:

Nope. When that helo is turning creating all that wind blast anyone on that deck is subject to being blown overboard. Plus on a LPD that deck is always rolling and pitching a bit.
 

Blitzo

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Nope. When that helo is turning creating all that wind blast anyone on that deck is subject to being blown overboard. Plus on a LPD that deck is always rolling and pitching a bit.

Cost.

During more formal helicoper ops (e.g.: only landing) the helipad crew all have hearing protection and life jackets, however they do lack helmets. This is also seen for helicopter ops on the Liaoning so far, however I don't know if their handling crew will still lack helmets once the PLAN realize how fast paced an operational CV deck is.


Buying enough hearing protection and life jackets for all crew to be available quickly is probably something the PLAN haven't forked out yet.
Other photos clearly show their sailors decently decked out with kit, so I think urgency in these pictures may have also prompted the sailors to forfeit the extra safety equipment, which they should obviously rectify.

So cost + regulation to a lesser degree.
 
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