PLAN Catapult Development Thread, News, etc.

[Jamekie]

Talk is cheap and it's easy to make pretty graphs and posters, the proof is in the pudding. Until the PRC actually produces an EMLS on a commissioned and functioning carrier, it's still just a dog and pony show.

What is your actual problem? What kind of hostile response was that? And when has the PRC said anything? Scientist and researchers are allowed to share their vision, it doesnt mean it will be achieved, but is only what they are working towards.
Your responses have been poisoning perfectly normal atmosphere and speculations by forum members, what ever country they are from or race they may belong, everyone is allowed to speculate as long as there is grounds to merit it.
So unless you have something of value to add to the descussion its best you refrain grom being so evidently Anti China or dismissing normal speculation with your arrogance of superiority.

I don't need to be a mod to tell you to quit it. You behave like a spoiled uneducated child, not a an man so kindly hold a seat!

 

[Blitzo]

Talk is cheap and it's easy to make pretty graphs and posters, the proof is in the pudding. Until the PRC actually produces an EMLS on a commissioned and functioning carrier, it's still just a dog and pony show.

I want to add to what others have said -- the tone and contents of your reply just seems completely uncalled for, hostile and petulant and it adds nothing to the conversation that everyone is not already greatly aware of.

It just makes you come across as a jerk.

I know that you do make constructive contributions, but too often you are always coming in with these short, few line interjections that add nothing to the conversation and just makes everyone bewildered and annoyed, and that isn't to mention the way you often make politically loaded posts in topics with little to no relevance.

 

[Iron Man]

I want to add to what others have said -- the tone and contents of your reply just seems completely uncalled for, hostile and petulant and it adds nothing to the conversation that everyone is not already greatly aware of.

It just makes you come across as a jerk.

I know that you do make constructive contributions, but too often you are always coming in with these short, few line interjections that add nothing to the conversation and just makes everyone bewildered and annoyed, and that isn't to mention the way you often make politically loaded posts in topics with little to no relevance.

This is the classic MO of a troll. In his particular case his posts actually vacillate between nauseatingly obsequious and mockingly derisive, both equally useless for this forum.

The EM cat poster is expressing a possible means of powering an EM cat, not making claims that this configuration/solution is set to be placed on the next carrier.

 

[Blitzo]

This is the classic MO of a troll. In his particular case his posts actually vacillate between nauseatingly obsequious and mockingly derisive, both equally useless for this forum.

Yes.

Blackstone has been here for long enough and I've seen enough of his posts to know that he can contribute constructively, but I swear over half of his posts in recent months have been non-useful at best, and deliberate flamebait at worst.

 

[vesicles]

Talk is cheap and it's easy to make pretty graphs and posters, the proof is in the pudding. Until the PRC actually produces an EMLS on a commissioned and functioning carrier, it's still just a dog and pony show.

With the posters discussed by taxiya, the PLA has not made any attempt to embellish their progress. They are not trying to claim anything on their EMAL development. A simple poster showing their current progress. Why the negativity? Shouldn't we applaud their openness?

Just in another thread, people have been complaining about how china keeps their military development secret. Now they are letting people know what they are doing and trying to update the world on their progress. What do they get? It is labeled as a dog and pony show... so please do provide some advice to the Chinese government as to what they should do... if they don't say anything, it's opacity. If they do say something about their programs in development, they get laughed at.

I'm willing to give you some benefit of the doubt and assume that you simply attempted to play the devil's advocate when you think too much praising has been sung. In that case, as many have suggested, you should do it in a constructive manner. For instance, taxiya's post that you quoted actually focuses on a very technical issue: super conductor is better than super capacitors. Instead of saying something empty and irrelevant, you should focus on the technical aspect of things and discuss your opinion on super conductor vs. super capacitor. I believe that you are an engineer yourself. You are fully capable of discussing such matter in depth if you want. I don't think people would be so annoyed if you focus on the technical aspect of things.

After all, the SDF is a Chinese military forum focused exclusively on the technical aspects of things.

 

[Equation]

Talk is cheap and it's easy to make pretty graphs and posters, the proof is in the pudding. Until the PRC actually produces an EMLS on a commissioned and functioning carrier, it's still just a dog and pony show.

Sheeesh did something bad happen to your precious religious institutionalize Taiwan or what?

 

[latenlazy]

Talk is cheap and it's easy to make pretty graphs and posters, the proof is in the pudding. Until the PRC actually produces an EMLS on a commissioned and functioning carrier, it's still just a dog and pony show.

Your talk included :/. I would caution that subjecting others to that kind of "talk is cheap" standard without also subjecting yourself to it makes you look condescending and disrespectful, as if you're trying to position yourself as more knowledgable or right than the people you're talking to.

You often seem to enjoy all too much hiding behind the safety of the old aphorism that you can't disprove a negative.

 

[broadsword]

In addition to the current super capacitor launch system, they are going to build a superconductor one. Which means another long delay before commissioning.

 

[delft]

In addition to the current super capacitor launch system, they are going to build a superconductor one. Which means another long delay before commissioning.

More likely they have space in the design for either and delaying the choice of energy accumulator will not impact the building of 002.
It will be difficult to also leave sufficient space to choose a steam cat.

 

[taxiya]

In addition to the current super capacitor launch system, they are going to build a superconductor one. Which means another long delay before commissioning.

I think there are only two viable variants right now.

The first one is flywheel only and is currently planned on a flattop. There won't be a delay for CV.
The second, possible later improvement is a combination of some sort that involves a super-inductor.

A pure super capacitor may not exists at all. From the graph I posted, it seems super-capacitor is still bit too low in total energy than the other two in today's technology level.
The advantages of super-capacitor are its fast charging and high burst power, both are a must for E-gun to shoot at least 8 rounds per minute as mentioned in Ma's research paper. But capacitor may not be powerful enough for launching an aircraft.

Also, remember, upgrading from flywheel to super-Inductor combo is not a major structural change to the CV. It only replaces the energy storage device with a smaller footprint and control cabinets about similar size, the track, linear motors etc. remains.