PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing
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Re: Aircraft Carriers II
[video=youtube;_pNgGWu9YdI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_pNgGWu9YdI[/video][video=youtube;eiXVhwhA9n8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eiXVhwhA9n8[/video]KOCHI: The country's first indigenous aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, will not be ready to go to war anytime before 2020 even if it's handed over to the Navy in 2018, as is now scheduled.
The 40,000-tonne carrier will have to undergo extensive weapon and aviation trials, which will include supersonic fighters taking off from its angled ski-jump and landing back on the flight deck with the help of "arrestor" wires, before being declared fully-operational, said sources.
But this does not detract from the fact that India is steadily, albeit slowly, building a powerful three-dimensional blue-water Navy for the future at a projected cost upwards of Rs 3 lakh crore over the next 15 years.
Even though INS Vikrant's progress has been excruciatingly slow, it does propel India into the exclusive club of only four nations — the US, Russia, the UK and France — that can build carriers of this size. China did induct a carrier, the 65,000-tonne Liaoning, last September but it was purchased in a half-ready state from Ukraine in 1998.
"The need for a strong and vigilant Navy to defend our mainland, island territories, off-shore assets, EEZ and maintaining our sea lanes of communication needs no emphasis," said defence minister A K Antony, at the "launch" ceremony of INS Vikrant at the Cochin Shipyard on Monday.
Then, of course, India needs to safeguard it primary area of geo-political interest stretching from Persian Gulf to Malacca Strait and beyond as well as effectively counter the expanding Chinese Navy's hunt for "strategic space" in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR).
The Navy, which is "committed" to supporting "indigenization" as a "strategic core competency", has its plans well chalked-out. "Out of the 47 warships and submarines currently on order, 46 are being built in Indian shipyards," said Navy chief Admiral D K Joshi.
But, despite the significant milestone of nuclear submarine INS Arihant's atomic reactor going "critical" on Saturday, the Navy's depleting fleet of 14 aging conventional diesel-electric submarines remains a big source of worry.
The ongoing over Rs 23,000-crore Scorpene submarine construction project at Mazagon Docks is running four years behind the original 2012-17 induction deadline. Moreover, the government has failed to kick start the long-pending second project for six new-generation stealth submarines with both land-attack missile capabilities and air-independent propulsion for greater endurance at a cost of over Rs 50,000 crore. Though Antony on Monday said the project was now in the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) for approval, the first submarine under it can roll out only by 2022 at the earliest.
The 260-metre-long INS Vikrant itself will take till 2020 to become battle-worthy. The Navy is all gung-ho about the induction of the 44,570-tonne INS Vikramaditya, the Admiral Gorshkov carrier now undergoing sea trials after the $2.33 billion refit in Russia, by the year-end. The country's solitary carrier at present, the 28,000-tonne INS Viraat, meanwhile continues to soldier on despite being 54-year-old.
[video=youtube;_pNgGWu9YdI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_pNgGWu9YdI[/video][video=youtube;eiXVhwhA9n8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eiXVhwhA9n8[/video]KOCHI: The country's first indigenous aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, will not be ready to go to war anytime before 2020 even if it's handed over to the Navy in 2018, as is now scheduled.
The 40,000-tonne carrier will have to undergo extensive weapon and aviation trials, which will include supersonic fighters taking off from its angled ski-jump and landing back on the flight deck with the help of "arrestor" wires, before being declared fully-operational, said sources.
But this does not detract from the fact that India is steadily, albeit slowly, building a powerful three-dimensional blue-water Navy for the future at a projected cost upwards of Rs 3 lakh crore over the next 15 years.
Even though INS Vikrant's progress has been excruciatingly slow, it does propel India into the exclusive club of only four nations — the US, Russia, the UK and France — that can build carriers of this size. China did induct a carrier, the 65,000-tonne Liaoning, last September but it was purchased in a half-ready state from Ukraine in 1998.
"The need for a strong and vigilant Navy to defend our mainland, island territories, off-shore assets, EEZ and maintaining our sea lanes of communication needs no emphasis," said defence minister A K Antony, at the "launch" ceremony of INS Vikrant at the Cochin Shipyard on Monday.
Then, of course, India needs to safeguard it primary area of geo-political interest stretching from Persian Gulf to Malacca Strait and beyond as well as effectively counter the expanding Chinese Navy's hunt for "strategic space" in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR).
The Navy, which is "committed" to supporting "indigenization" as a "strategic core competency", has its plans well chalked-out. "Out of the 47 warships and submarines currently on order, 46 are being built in Indian shipyards," said Navy chief Admiral D K Joshi.
But, despite the significant milestone of nuclear submarine INS Arihant's atomic reactor going "critical" on Saturday, the Navy's depleting fleet of 14 aging conventional diesel-electric submarines remains a big source of worry.
The ongoing over Rs 23,000-crore Scorpene submarine construction project at Mazagon Docks is running four years behind the original 2012-17 induction deadline. Moreover, the government has failed to kick start the long-pending second project for six new-generation stealth submarines with both land-attack missile capabilities and air-independent propulsion for greater endurance at a cost of over Rs 50,000 crore. Though Antony on Monday said the project was now in the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) for approval, the first submarine under it can roll out only by 2022 at the earliest.
The 260-metre-long INS Vikrant itself will take till 2020 to become battle-worthy. The Navy is all gung-ho about the induction of the 44,570-tonne INS Vikramaditya, the Admiral Gorshkov carrier now undergoing sea trials after the $2.33 billion refit in Russia, by the year-end. The country's solitary carrier at present, the 28,000-tonne INS Viraat, meanwhile continues to soldier on despite being 54-year-old.
Re: Aircraft Carriers II
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i have heard many newspapers calling it majestic class ac from where did majestic come from/?
cn_habs
Junior Member
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
It's possible but extremely unlikely. This is either a CV model or the real thing.
The biggest question now is why is the hanger so low?
It's possible but extremely unlikely. This is either a CV model or the real thing.
The biggest question now is why is the hanger so low?
asif iqbal
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Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
The hanger is not low, it's exactly where it's meant to be, here's a picture of the Queen Elizabeth
I still believe looking at the dimensions of this module at JNCX it's a large LHD, the carrier it under construction at Dalian
The hanger is not low, it's exactly where it's meant to be, here's a picture of the Queen Elizabeth
I still believe looking at the dimensions of this module at JNCX it's a large LHD, the carrier it under construction at Dalian
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
I guess there is always a possibility just like integrating a catapult into the skid-ramp, but china probably wont do that for the same reasons that almost all?? other countries' LHD/LHA dont have catapult on them.
The first issue i can think of how is the non-V/STOL J-31 going to land without an angled deck.
There are probably other more teething issues that i am not knowledgeable to tell.
I guess there is always a possibility just like integrating a catapult into the skid-ramp, but china probably wont do that for the same reasons that almost all?? other countries' LHD/LHA dont have catapult on them.
The first issue i can think of how is the non-V/STOL J-31 going to land without an angled deck.
There are probably other more teething issues that i am not knowledgeable to tell.
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
There is six decks below hangar on QE. We don't know their height. I've tried to calculate it from available images and gotten a value of (very roughly) 3 meters, but that is by no means precise.
There are four decks below hangar on this mystery module, plus another deck which isn't full height. We don't know the precise height of these decks but judging from other approximations, regular deck height may be around 2,3 meters.
There is six decks below hangar on QE. We don't know their height. I've tried to calculate it from available images and gotten a value of (very roughly) 3 meters, but that is by no means precise.
There are four decks below hangar on this mystery module, plus another deck which isn't full height. We don't know the precise height of these decks but judging from other approximations, regular deck height may be around 2,3 meters.