PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing
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Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
Just look at the numbers and capabilities of nuclear attack subs and nuclear ballistic missile subs the Soviets had!
Not to mention numbers of DDGs, FFGs, and the regiments of naval air the Soviets had backing them all up.
But, that was then, and this is now. The Russian Navy today is but a shadow of what it once was.
And the PLAN is building rapidly, modernizing rapidly, and developing their doctrine to match. Their new DDGs, their LPDs, their new FFGs are very capable vessels by today's standards. They are beginning to put some credible SSN into the water too. Although the Liaoning is significantly behind US carrier technology, it is still (outside the US) right up there with the best carriers available to anyone else, and they are going to build more and keep pushing the envelope.
it will be an interesting next couple of decades.
Of course they were...and are.
Just look at the numbers and capabilities of nuclear attack subs and nuclear ballistic missile subs the Soviets had!
Not to mention numbers of DDGs, FFGs, and the regiments of naval air the Soviets had backing them all up.
But, that was then, and this is now. The Russian Navy today is but a shadow of what it once was.
And the PLAN is building rapidly, modernizing rapidly, and developing their doctrine to match. Their new DDGs, their LPDs, their new FFGs are very capable vessels by today's standards. They are beginning to put some credible SSN into the water too. Although the Liaoning is significantly behind US carrier technology, it is still (outside the US) right up there with the best carriers available to anyone else, and they are going to build more and keep pushing the envelope.
it will be an interesting next couple of decades.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
True in terms of relative size and quantity but if you take away their sub surface fleet and take into account PLAN is concentrating mainly on the Pacific while the former USSR was pretty much spread out all over the place, then they are more at par with each other. For example, if you take away the Soviet Navy's powerful Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Sea fleet then their numbers and capabilities would decrease significantly.
You are also comparing a navy at it's peak with one that is only relatively starting out in it's expansion plan so it's not a fair comparison at this point.
To have a better matchup you have to compare apples to apples.
True in terms of relative size and quantity but if you take away their sub surface fleet and take into account PLAN is concentrating mainly on the Pacific while the former USSR was pretty much spread out all over the place, then they are more at par with each other. For example, if you take away the Soviet Navy's powerful Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Sea fleet then their numbers and capabilities would decrease significantly.
You are also comparing a navy at it's peak with one that is only relatively starting out in it's expansion plan so it's not a fair comparison at this point.
To have a better matchup you have to compare apples to apples.
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I think the greater point of interest isn't in where the PLAN is at right now, but where they will be 10, 20, 30, or 50 years from now. It would be a mistake not to account for rate of growth when your interest is in future understanding and comparisons of strength and not present ones.
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I think the greater point of interest isn't in where the PLAN is at right now, but where they will be 10, 20, 30, or 50 years from now. It would be a mistake not to account for rate of growth when your interest is in future understanding and comparisons of strength and not present ones.
Blackstone
Brigadier
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
I sense Dragon's Fury II coming to a bookstore near you...
I sense Dragon's Fury II coming to a bookstore near you...
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I would happily pay for Dragon's Fury part II if there ever will be one
I would happily pay for Dragon's Fury part II if there ever will be one
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
Oh, y'all stop it...please, come on, just stop it! LOL!I would happily pay for Dragon's Fury part II if there ever will be one
Engineer
Major
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction
According to recent news, an engineer serving on the Liaoning recently received a first class distinction award from Xi Jinping himself. Rumor has it that the engineer solved an issue related to boiler efficiency. According to the same rumor, the issue was what holding back China from starting construction on the first domestic carrier.
According to recent news, an engineer serving on the Liaoning recently received a first class distinction award from Xi Jinping himself. Rumor has it that the engineer solved an issue related to boiler efficiency. According to the same rumor, the issue was what holding back China from starting construction on the first domestic carrier.
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At this point, after so many announcements over the last 10-12 years, I will believe it when I actually see them building something. I believe they are still many years away from starting to build a new one.
Every so often the Russians make another announcement about their plans to build more large aircraft carriers.
At this point, after so many announcements over the last 10-12 years, I will believe it when I actually see them building something. I believe they are still many years away from starting to build a new one.