PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Jeff Head

General
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Re: Aircraft Carriers II

JS Izumo, DDH-183 (1st 22DDH) Launch video:


[video=youtube;MT-9maM-Pks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT-9maM-Pks[/video]

Big ship, and here's some nice pics of the launch which I took from the video.


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Jeff Head

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Re: Carrier Proliferation: 2012-1014

Add this one to the "launched" category. Carriers are popping out all over the world, particularly in the PAcific.

JS Izumo, DDH-183 (1st 22DDH) Launch video:


[video=youtube;MT-9maM-Pks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT-9maM-Pks[/video]

Big ship, and here's some nice pics of the launch which I took from the video.


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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Re: Aircraft Carriers II

is that really 20,000 tons? even full load 27,000 tons seems bit short? looks to be >30,000 tons
 

Jeff Head

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Re: Aircraft Carriers II

is that really 20,000 tons? even full load 27,000 tons seems bit short? looks to be >30,000 tons
Well, the Hyugas are 20,000 full load. This one is 815ft long, a little larger beam, and so an additional 7,000 tons seems reasonable. They say 27,000 tons, I guess once she is fully outfitted and loaded with aircraft and their provisions we shall know.

If they just put nine helos on her and the provisions, fuel, etc, for that, maybe they can keep it at 27,000 tons...but she is capable of a lot more than that, and I expect should they completely load her up with 24-30 aircraft and all of the fuel, provisions, armament, etc.. for that, we may see that number increase.
 

bd popeye

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Re: Aircraft Carriers II

If they just put nine helos on her and the provisions, fuel, etc, for that, maybe they can keep it at 27,000 tons...but she is capable of a lot more than that, and I expect should they completely load her up with 24-30 aircraft and all of the fuel, provisions, armament, etc.. for that, we may see that number increase.

what you state is more than likely true. However...is the berthing installed to accommodate a larger crew? JMSDF ships are not permitted to have berthing areas larger than 6 bunks per stateroom for lower enlisted. I state this because the more aircraft are aboard the more sailors will be required to perform maintenance.
 

Jeff Head

General
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Re: Aircraft Carriers II

what you state is more than likely true. However...is the berthing installed to accommodate a larger crew? JMSDF ships are not permitted to have berthing areas larger than 6 bunks per stateroom for lower enlisted. I state this because the more aircraft are aboard the more sailors will be required to perform maintenance.
They do have berthing for several hundred Marines. I would expect that in a scenario where they added more aircraft, they would use that berthing to accomodate the pilots, maintenance personnel, deck handlers, etc. necessary to accomodate the larger niumber of aircraft and have correspondingly less Marine berthing.
 

delft

Brigadier
Re: Aircraft Carriers II

what you state is more than likely true. However...is the berthing installed to accommodate a larger crew? JMSDF ships are not permitted to have berthing areas larger than 6 bunks per stateroom for lower enlisted. I state this because the more aircraft are aboard the more sailors will be required to perform maintenance.
Hi, popeye, is the use of the word stateroom for the space for berthing of six enlisted men also one of those Americanisms that amazes us Europeans?
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Re: Aircraft Carriers II

Hi, popeye, is the use of the word stateroom for the space for berthing of six enlisted men also one of those Americanisms that amazes us Europeans?

what you said..

On an USN vessel a stateroom is for officers. Enlisted men live in berthing compartments that on a a carrier can hold up to 200 sailors. Yep that's right.

I'd better clarify.. On USN CVNs enlisted berthing spaces are as small as 12 men and as large as 200 men. With varying sizes in between.

My son told me , because he worked with the JSDF, that they are required to have "staterooms" i.e berthing areas. that berth no more than 6 sailors.
 

Intrepid

Major
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

I expect, that China will build a new carrier. But the pictures are not the proof of the beginning.
 
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