PLAN Carrier Construction

SinoSoldier

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Well, according to a supposedly credible big shrimp, the first "improved Liaoning" has begun construction @ DL. As stated by the same source, three additional 052D will be built at DL, bringing the total to eleven, and the 055 will also start building at DL.
 

asif iqbal

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Well, according to a supposedly credible big shrimp, the first "improved Liaoning" has begun construction @ DL. As stated by the same source, three additional 052D will be built at DL, bringing the total to eleven, and the 055 will also start building at DL.

Well nothing has started at Dalian and no Type 055 and no large replenishment tanker and it's end of 2013

So I don't know how credible this is unless we start seeing some serious pics
 

plawolf

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Building a Liaoning like carrier at DL seems only natural and logical.

I'd even buy the 052D, even if building three at once seems a bit of a tall order, especially since DL has never build any gas turbine warships before. I would have expected them to build one first as a trial run, and only pump up the volume after that first ship had been through sea trials and the PLAN are satisfied the DL has mastered all the new tools and techniques they might have to employ for the first time. Maybe they don't mean that three 052Ds will be built all at once, in which case it would be fine.

However, for DL to build the first 055 cruiser would be very out of character, unless again, they are talking about a future tense whereby DL starts building additional 055s after one of the Shanghai yards had already pioneered the design.
 

chuck731

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Well nothing has started at Dalian and no Type 055 and no large replenishment tanker and it's end of 2013

So I don't know how credible this is unless we start seeing some serious pics

Having "Begun" is not a very precise term. Long lead items may have been ordered, but actual fabrication of large hull sections may not have yet happened.
 

SinoSoldier

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China will construct two conventionally powered aircraft carriers in Dalian and Shanghai between 2014 and 2015, a source from China's Central Military Commission has told Duowei News, an outlet run by overseas Chinese.

Under the Commission's Project 048, China aims to establish three carrier battle groups by 2020 so that all three major fleets of the PLA Navy will be able to carry out missions with the full support of an aircraft carrier. The two new Type 001A indigenous carriers will be updated versions of China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which was originally a Soviet-era Admiral Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier purchased from Ukraine in 1998. They will also likely be designed with a ski-jump ramp, according to Duowei.

Sources said that the General Equipment Department of the PLA has already signed a contract with the Beijing-based China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation to build the two carriers. The price of the two vessels is estimated to be worth US$9 billion.

China has yet to decide whether its J-31 stealth fighter will replace the J-15 to become the country's next generation carrier-based fighter, according to sources. The J-31 fighter entered service before the J-15, and is able to land or take off from the flight deck of the Liaoning. Sources said that a decision will only be made after the construction of the nation's second and third aircraft carriers is completed. This will give the PLA more time to think about the type of carrier-based fighter it will need in the future, the sources added.

According to some rumors, the General Armaments Department signed a contract with each of the Beijing-based China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC) and the China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC). The carriers with CATOBAR capabilities will have to wait until the competition for the Navy stealth aircraft between NO. 601 Institute and NO. 611 Institute is complete.
 

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There have been so many "reliable" rumours of Imminent carrier construction in the last year compared to the last few preceding years, but every single one says something different.

Then again it's not like want china times is a reliable source.
 

Jeff Head

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China will construct two conventionally powered aircraft carriers in Dalian and Shanghai between 2014 and 2015, a source from China's Central Military Commission has told Duowei News, an outlet run by overseas Chinese.

Under the Commission's Project 048, China aims to establish three carrier battle groups by 2020 so that all three major fleets of the PLA Navy will be able to carry out missions with the full support of an aircraft carrier. The two new Type 001A indigenous carriers will be updated versions of China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, which was originally a Soviet-era Admiral Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier purchased from Ukraine in 1998. They will also likely be designed with a ski-jump ramp, according to Duowei.

Sources said that the General Equipment Department of the PLA has already signed a contract with the Beijing-based China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation to build the two carriers. The price of the two vessels is estimated to be worth US$9 billion.

China has yet to decide whether its J-31 stealth fighter will replace the J-15 to become the country's next generation carrier-based fighter, according to sources. The J-31 fighter entered service before the J-15, and is able to land or take off from the flight deck of the Liaoning. Sources said that a decision will only be made after the construction of the nation's second and third aircraft carriers is completed. This will give the PLA more time to think about the type of carrier-based fighter it will need in the future, the sources added.
Well, this is quite interesting.

I am not sure about the source (which I underlined). Is anyone else familiar with them?

On one hand it makes a lot of sense about the carrier configuration itself and where they will be built. BAsically an iproved Liaoning design, but still STOBAR.

But the part about the J-31 is perplexing and lends a real sense of "un-believability" to it.

The article says the J-31 was in service before the J-15...but the J-31 only has a single pototype and has not even gone into production, and it clearly not "in service." It is clearly not a case of translation problems either between "first flight," and "in service," becasue the J-31's first flight was in October 2012 and the J-15's first flight was over three years earlier in August 2009.

So..again, its confusing. We have heard mulitple strories about the the PLAN starting construction on its own carriers and then not seen any evidence of it happening. We shall see if this one is any different.
 

Equation

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Well, this is quite interesting.

I am not sure about the source (which I underlined). Is anyone else familiar with them?

On one hand it makes a lot of sense about the carrier configuration itself and where they will be built. BAsically an iproved Liaoning design, but still STOBAR.

But the part about the J-31 is perplexing and lends a real sense of "un-believability" to it.

The article says the J-31 was in service before the J-15...but the J-31 only has a single pototype and has not even gone into production, and it clearly not "in service." It is clearly not a case of translation problems either between "first flight," and "in service," becasue the J-31's first flight was in October 2012 and the J-15's first flight was over three years earlier in August 2009.

So..again, its confusing. We have heard mulitple strories about the the PLAN starting construction on its own carriers and then not seen any evidence of it happening. We shall see if this one is any different.

Sounds like a prediction to me. Although I do think the PLAN building of two Liaoning type carrier are realistic. But the news on that J-31 (assuming its the same one we all think it is) to be replacing the J-15 does NOT make sense to me.
 

Jeff Head

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Sounds like a prediction to me. Although I do think the PLAN building of two Liaoning type carrier are realistic. But the news on that J-31 (assuming its the same one we all think it is) to be replacing the J-15 does NOT make sense to me.
Well, one thing is for sure.

If we start seeing two new carrier hulls under construction, one in Shanghai and one in Dalian this next year...we will see a HUGE amount of activity on our PLAN carrier thread building up to their launch.

Can you imagine the excitment if the PLAN launches TWO carriers in the same year in 2017 or 2018?
 
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