PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles

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taxiya said:
Why would U.S. remains silent if it knows what was it? Evidence of a working ASBM would totally destroy the credibility of U.S. naval dominance in West pacific and beyond. It means the end of everything. CVG is the foundation of U.S. power. The other three, no matter how fancy they are, they are still experiments, not eminent threats. They can be used for budgets.
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taxiya said:
I see the argument of proof is going to a dead end. To some people, the only acceptable, undeniable proof is a sunken aircraft carrier. Since the chance of that to happen is below 0.0001%, it make no sense to continue arguing.
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Are you kidding me? Basically it would mean the end of the Aircraft Carrier building business worth tens of billions of dollars and thousands of jobs at risk and no more ripping off the tax payers!:D No no...no sir! We can't have that, must hire more professional propagandist or PR to ensure the public and Congress that the carrier is still viable.;)
 
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vincent

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There is no need to test the system on a ship if the warhead is a GPS-based maneuvering vehicle. The missile can be fire toward a general area in the desert range. The offboard guidance system continously feeds a series of coordinates to the vehicle to simulate the movement of the aircraft carrier. The final coordinate would be the targeted area. If the warhead hits that, it means the warhead system works

The targeting system can be tested on the real thing without the target aware of it
 
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antiterror13

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AssassinsMace said:
A modern military battle of equal foes has not taken place since WWII. Everything today is on paper and analyzed and hasn't really been combat proven. When you see the US involved in wars with lesser opponents, are low US casualties because US soldiers are better trained or is it they have military hardware support that the other side doesn't have? Are enemy casualties because US soldiers are better trained or because of aircraft that can drop bombs from 30,000ft?
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Because the US always send the best soldiers (aka elite) to fight militias or regular armies ... also of course much much superior weapons and supports
 
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Equation said:
Are you kidding me? Basically it would mean the end of the Aircraft Carrier building business worth tens of billions of dollars and thousands of jobs at risk and no more ripping off the tax payers!:D No no...no sir! We can't have that, must hire more professional propagandist or PR to ensure the public and Congress that the carrier is still viable.;)
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China is not the only rival to keep at check. Carrier is still good against other less powerful opponents. Even if asbm works, China's vital shipping lanes are still vulnerable to Us interdiction on high seas where China's land based assets cannot reach.
 
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Iron Man

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Yep. Even without attacking China's kill chain, it already possesses the SM-3 that could target the exo-atmospheric portion of the DF-21D's flight profile, and the SM-6 and even SM-2 that could attack the DF-21D during its terminal descent.
 
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Iron Man said:
Yep. Even without attacking China's kill chain, it already possesses the SM-3 that could target the exo-atmospheric portion of the DF-21D's flight profile, and the SM-6 and even SM-2 that could attack the DF-21D during its terminal descent.
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Before or after the DF-21D warhead changes its flight profile during descent? This is not your any ordinary ballistic missile we're talking about.
 
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Brainsuker

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Are you kidding me? Basically it would mean the end of the Aircraft Carrier building business worth tens of billions of dollars and thousands of jobs at risk and no more ripping off the tax payers!:D No no...no sir! We can't have that, must hire more professional propagandist or PR to ensure the public and Congress that the carrier is still viable.;)
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Carrier is a mobile airfield on the sea. so do you mean that an airfield is no longer viable?
 
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Brainsuker said:
Carrier is a mobile airfield on the sea. so do you mean that an airfield is no longer viable?
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All it takes is a few good holes done by missiles to make ANY airfield (whether stationary or sea mobile) obsolete. One can't launch planes with all dem pot holes.
 
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taxiya

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No weapon can guarantee a 100% kill rate, not DF-21D, nor any SMs. That's why military always has to fire multiple shoots to get something like 90%. A working ASBM does not make carrier obsolete, but it is the most credible threat to a CBG. That threat itself makes an once invincible weapon just one out of many. Something like pulling an alpha wolf off the throne of the pack. I think PLAN does not expect more than that.
 
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