PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments

franco-russe

Senior Member
Actually, Turkey does not give permission to enter the Black Sea. In accordance with the Montreux convention of 1936, all warships below a certain size are allowed to pass the Turkish Straits, after giving a 14-day advance notice.
 

no_name

Colonel
Read somewhere that the Kiev class ships were deliberately not referred to as aircraft carriers to be able to enter and exit the black sea.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
This is for civilian ships and for naval warships that belong only to the Black Sea states, I think Turkey also has the right to close the straits if it wants, for Soviets there was a clause

Wasn't this convention given in favour of Turkey to control the Bosporus and Dardanelles so Turkish power did not tilt towards Nazis Germany?

The first part is Just what I am remembering from what I read in the article
 

franco-russe

Senior Member
You cannot give Turkey something she already has, namely control of the straits.

And of course Turkey would exercise this control if she was at war (the Convention permits this).

Black Sea states have more rights than non-Black Sea states under the Convention. There is nothing that would prevent a Black Sea state sending an aircraft carrier through the straits. The classification of the KIEV and KUZNETSOV class ships as aircraft-carrying cruisers is not related to the Montreux Convention (though you can find that widespread belief repeated many places).

When the Turks held up the ex-VARYAG a couple of years on its passage from Nikolayev to Dalian, it was not because it was a carrier, but allegedly ecological concerns (I wonder what the real reason was).
 

MwRYum

Major
When the Turks held up the ex-VARYAG a couple of years on its passage from Nikolayev to Dalian, it was not because it was a carrier, but allegedly ecological concerns (I wonder what the real reason was).

If that's a spelling bee question, the answer would be A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N.

Though the ecological concerns is still very legit, given the ex-Varyag at that time was nothing more than a big steel tub, if an when the cable snapped (and it did happened during the tow), you can imagine the mayhem that can be.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Great pics there bdpopeye! Thanks for posting

Don't have time to check all the videos out and I don't understand Chinese but had time for a quick browse through and it's VERY encouraging to see these videos, it's clear these anti piracy missions are not just piracy missions they offer so mich more to China

Just picked up things like the landing of a helo on deck the procedures, body language, attitude etc etc of the crews looks amazing, they adopt a can do attitude

Other things like taking water samples from the replenishment water tankers in Yemen, checking the salinity, PH and composition is always good standard procedure and Chinese had a suite case sampler which they used to check water quality against written specifications, these are qaulitys of world class navy's

Most of the time they spend on cleaning the warships and doing maintance, keeping moral high by doing daily excersizes, doing group activitys and having celebrations, live fire excersizes these are qaulitys of good navy's, I see the spark in the sailors the talent the edge you need to operate on the high seas, they have mechanical problems they fix them they have a rapid response they react, many navy's are slow and lead by bad captains, in Chinas case the leadership is very very enthusiastic and lead their teams well

Also we got to see the internal of the ships and the way they are laid out the finish the deck the overall war fighting capabilitys

Great videos and I am very impressed by the standard on these ships and the ships themselves! Things will only get better and China has learnt so much
 

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By USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG 81) Public Affairs

AT SEA (NNS) -- Guided-missile destroyer USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG 81) and other U.S. Navy assets participated in a counter-piracy exercise with elements of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (Navy) PLA(N) near the Horn of Africa, Sept. 17.

The exercise, the first bilateral counter-piracy exercise ever conducted between the U.S. and China, paired Winston S. Churchill with PLA(N) frigate Yi Yang (FF 548) to conduct a combined visit, board, search, and seizure (VBSS) boarding.

The focus was on bilateral interoperability in detecting, boarding and searching suspected vessels as well as the ability of both Chinese and American naval assets to respond to pirated vessels.

"Piracy is a threat to the freedom of the seas, economic security, and the safety of mariners from all nations. Bilateral exercises such as this demonstrate the cooperative will of the international community and increases proficiency of multinational forces in confronting the threat," said Cmdr. Chris D. Stone, Winston S. Churchill's commanding officer. "We have common regional and global security challenges, and we are able to jointly address those by training together."

VBSS teams from both ships performed the boarding on Winston S. Churchill, which was simulating a pirated vessel. Executing the boarding side-by-side as a combined U.S.-Chinese team, the team successfully searched the vessel and provided assistance to the role-playing mariners.

Participants felt that the training was meaningful, providing a unique opportunity to operate alongside one another.

"It was exciting to interact with the Chinese Sailors and cooperate in a critical environment," said Lt. j.g. Edward R. Kellum, boarding officer for Winston S. Churchill's VBSS team. "Anytime we work with a foreign military, it adds a different perspective to how we operate. However, to collaborate with the Chinese in an anti-piracy framework is a rare opportunity and a real achievement for maritime security."

Following the exercise, leaders from both navies discussed the elements of the boarding in order to learn how to better operate together in the future.

U.S and Chinese leaders expressed how important and beneficial the training was, both in terms of building cooperative ties and development of techniques to counter piracy.

"We're appreciative of the opportunity to train with other nations to establish ties that will allow us to work together to face the piracy threat," said Stone. "As fellow mariners we have great admiration for our Chinese counterparts who are sailing alongside us and other coalition partners to keep the sea lanes safe."

Winston S. Churchill is currently deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility conducting maritime security operations, theater security cooperation efforts, and support missions for Operation Enduring Freedom.

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