joshuatree
Captain
Seems a little overkill and costly to take out primarily skiffs.
PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments
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Seems a little overkill and costly to take out primarily skiffs.
Because you can't just go around blowing up skiffs who they look like they're pirates... there would be few if any times in a navy's anti piracy mission where they would need to fire anything beyond a heavy machine gun against pirate skiffs, if that at all.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
a anti-tank missile? that would probably go right through the skiffs and do no damage, its not a armoured coloumn
Anti tank missiles mostly cause damage through shaped charges. It's not the most effective warhead to sink a skiff and kill its crew, but an ATGM will do the job. A large airburst warhead would be more suitable.
But this is all moot anyway because there is no requirement to blow up skiffs at long range, and existing HMG, ciws and DP guns aboard ships can do just as well in rare cases.
MwRYum
Major
First, Somali pirates and fishermen are 2 sides of the same coin, so you can't tell were they really fishing (a fleet of small boats chasing dolphins are one of the ways the fishermen knows there's a school of fish nearby) or a pirate wolfpack looking for prey. Secondly, the UN resolution that the navies operating anti-piracy missions doesn't sanctioned shoot-to-kill - heck they got big problem should and when an arrest was made on the pirates!
Besides, if you REALLY needed to take out a pirate skiff, HMG with mixed load of AP/Ball/incendiary rounds would be sufficient, if you want shock-and-awe go for the 76mm main gun, ATGM just isn't cost effective.
And according to what I asked the PLAN officers during the open house event, pirates would break off when you make them know they're within your HMG effective firing range.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
btw love the pics
clearly China isnt just escorting ships but also at the same time making the most of the deployments and training crews to the max
and this is what it is about, gaining as much experience as possible, they arent escorting 24/7 so in times of less busy they are doing plenty of things to keep up activitys and moral and keeping busy
with 3 ships in the form of a replenishment tanker, frigate and a destroyer they are certainly not short of activitys
however China needs to send out a surface force with a sub-surface force, to use the two in tandem, that is a challenge for any navy with frigates and destroyers are working and communicating with submarines and it is also very challenging when doing it outside home waters
Z9 can play cat and mouse with PLAN submarines and vice versa, it would be a very good learning experience in foreign waters there so much they can do with submarines
clearly China isnt just escorting ships but also at the same time making the most of the deployments and training crews to the max
and this is what it is about, gaining as much experience as possible, they arent escorting 24/7 so in times of less busy they are doing plenty of things to keep up activitys and moral and keeping busy
with 3 ships in the form of a replenishment tanker, frigate and a destroyer they are certainly not short of activitys
however China needs to send out a surface force with a sub-surface force, to use the two in tandem, that is a challenge for any navy with frigates and destroyers are working and communicating with submarines and it is also very challenging when doing it outside home waters
Z9 can play cat and mouse with PLAN submarines and vice versa, it would be a very good learning experience in foreign waters there so much they can do with submarines
I am wondering why they haven’t sent 051B (Luhai) or 051C (Luzhou) series on anti piracy deployments yet.
They have sent the 051B, and it should have been sent considering it has extensive helicopter facilities. Not too sure about the 051C though, it has no hangar so it's response to distress calls may be slower or non-existent compared to ships with hangars.