Engineer
Major
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
I wouldn't want to be the guy manning that station when the 730 goes off. :roll:
PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments
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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
actually i think that station looks a bit redundant. its like placing two machine guns in one trench...what the hell is the point? i rather believe they put it there so the journalist can get a good photo with 730 in it
actually i think that station looks a bit redundant. its like placing two machine guns in one trench...what the hell is the point? i rather believe they put it there so the journalist can get a good photo with 730 in it
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
overkill, anything that come close enough will be shredded by the 730s
According to mil.qianlong.com: to prevent possible attacks from pirates, the Chinese destroyers have four layers of defense.
1. 100mm main gun. This gun has an effective range of about 10km.
2. Small caliber auto cannon (Type 730). This cannon has an effective range up to 4km.
3. 12.7 heavy machine gun. Range 1 to 1.5km
4. The special force equipped with type 95 series light weapon.
In case the attack comes at night, the destroyers also equipped with night vision device. So, they're safe
overkill, anything that come close enough will be shredded by the 730s
SteelBird
Colonel
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
The report also said that the possibility of using missiles on board the destroyers is almost zero. I agree with that. Missiles are too expensive to fight pirates or even not practical to fight a tiny boat like that. I think that in most case pirates would escape any navy vessels unless they have gone insane. If there is an engagement, the engagement should be separated into two cases.
1. To engage the speedboat. This might be a suicide attack. If they close in, you can see clearly what are on board, so you can let them come closer. Let's say some 500 ~ 800 meters. Then intercept them with heavy machine gun.
2. To engage the mother ship. You won't know what they have on board. Maybe some portable missiles which are still dangerous to the destroyers. In such case, you need to intercept it at longer range with your main 100mm gun. Let's say 2 ~ 5km.
overkill, anything that come close enough will be shredded by the 730s
The report also said that the possibility of using missiles on board the destroyers is almost zero. I agree with that. Missiles are too expensive to fight pirates or even not practical to fight a tiny boat like that. I think that in most case pirates would escape any navy vessels unless they have gone insane. If there is an engagement, the engagement should be separated into two cases.
1. To engage the speedboat. This might be a suicide attack. If they close in, you can see clearly what are on board, so you can let them come closer. Let's say some 500 ~ 800 meters. Then intercept them with heavy machine gun.
2. To engage the mother ship. You won't know what they have on board. Maybe some portable missiles which are still dangerous to the destroyers. In such case, you need to intercept it at longer range with your main 100mm gun. Let's say 2 ~ 5km.
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
I agree missiles are impractical to use against small boats, but I do see the possibility of using missiles against the pirate mothership (only if they decide to actively engage the pirate). Because the destroyers could have detected the pirate ship well beyond the firing range of the main gun, in that case fire some YJ-83 would be the most effective way. But then again the PLAN said they're not planning to actively seek to engage pirates.
I agree missiles are impractical to use against small boats, but I do see the possibility of using missiles against the pirate mothership (only if they decide to actively engage the pirate). Because the destroyers could have detected the pirate ship well beyond the firing range of the main gun, in that case fire some YJ-83 would be the most effective way. But then again the PLAN said they're not planning to actively seek to engage pirates.
joshuatree
Captain
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
Since PLAN's position is to not actively seek and engage pirates, the pirates will either end up attacking a merchant ship being escorted by PLAN or they attack a merchant ship that eventually sends out a distress call which PLAN responds to. Scenario 1 seems improbable as pirates won't be that crazy (or maybe they are?). In scenario 2, since PLAN is responding, I see it more of sending ahead a helo with special forces? So an actual engagement between destroyer and pirates is highly unlikely?
I kinda wish PLAN could and would deploy some of those new FACs, seems to better match up to what the pirates are sporting.
Since PLAN's position is to not actively seek and engage pirates, the pirates will either end up attacking a merchant ship being escorted by PLAN or they attack a merchant ship that eventually sends out a distress call which PLAN responds to. Scenario 1 seems improbable as pirates won't be that crazy (or maybe they are?). In scenario 2, since PLAN is responding, I see it more of sending ahead a helo with special forces? So an actual engagement between destroyer and pirates is highly unlikely?
I kinda wish PLAN could and would deploy some of those new FACs, seems to better match up to what the pirates are sporting.
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
joshuatree posted
And previously you posted..
We both know it would have been a logistical nightmare to support say four FACs in those African waters. Like you posted..you need a "Mother ship" or a base to operate from.
And they would have to be transported there. No small task.
Let's all give the PLAN a chance to do their duty with the ships they have sent and then see what the results are.
joshuatree posted
And previously you posted..
We both know it would have been a logistical nightmare to support say four FACs in those African waters. Like you posted..you need a "Mother ship" or a base to operate from.
And they would have to be transported there. No small task.
Let's all give the PLAN a chance to do their duty with the ships they have sent and then see what the results are.
joshuatree
Captain
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
Oh absolutely and I still stand by my statements. But that doesn't mean one can't wish.
Oh absolutely and I still stand by my statements. But that doesn't mean one can't wish.