PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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bd popeye

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True indeed ... their flight deck activities seem to be ramping up ( only to be expected) and the requisite aircraft handling, fuelling and arming procedures/skills are coming on well.

That is a very important photo. Their ops now appear mature and ready to work up a combat ready air group.

So very true. This photo is indeed the activity one should see on the flight deck. Real and unrehearsed. Not photos of shipmates marching around in formation and standing at parade rest. To me an old salt with years on the roof under my belt..those"old" CV-16 photos looked well ridiculous...such as;

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..To me these photos
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were staged..some what. Perhaps because they were new at what they were doing on that flight deck.. Just my opinion. The PLAN CV programme is coming along..slowly but surely.
 

plawolf

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So very true. This photo is indeed the activity one should see on the flight deck. Real and unrehearsed. Not photos of shipmates marching around in formation and standing at parade rest. To me an old salt with years on the roof under my belt..those"old" CV-16 photos looked well ridiculous...such as;

XlP9Bni.jpg


A7YxdVv.jpg


..To me these photos
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were staged..some what. Perhaps because they were new at what they were doing on that flight deck.. Just my opinion. The PLAN CV programme is coming along..slowly but surely.

Not necessarily.

You have to remember that the Liaoning is primarily a training and testing carrier.

At the time those photos were taken, it was most certainly not yet operational.

My guess is that it was after they have completed testing, training and qualification for the first batch of pilots and deck hands, who then became instructors so they can rapidly train up more personal to bring the ship closer to operational status.

As such, I think the above was a classroom practical.

Notice how all the extra personnel were red shirts, and how one of them was up on the aircraft. Also notice how the aircraft was locked down nice and tight and not in a launch position - so they were not really prep'ing it for a sortie (although they probably went through all the steps as if they were, including engine start and preflight checks, hence all the precautions - you can even seen the heat distortions from the engines in second picture).

My guess is it was a red shirt instructor doing a live practical walk through of some of the duties involved for newbies (do you also call new deckhands greenhorns, or is that just for pilots?).

After he was done, the class files back, probably literally back to a classroom to consolidate on what they just learnt, with a few blue shirts as escort - which would be unnecessary if everyone was already trained up and qualified.

In my view, if it was a purely staged PR photoshoot, the camera crew would be far closer to the action, and they would not turn the engines on for something like that.

The PLA might be more tolerant of PR people using their people and hardware as props, but I seriously doubt they would waste resources like fuel and take safety risks just for a photoshoot.

It would be fine to pose with the hardware, but actually turning stuff on and the like would be out of bounds in my view.
 
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bd popeye

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Excellent observation plawolf.

Well now. we all have our different opinions about what we see in the photos and videos of PLAN CV-16. and to me the bottom line is this. >>> We are seeing the forming of a very capable Aircraft Carrier right before our very eyes. History in the making. The PLAN progress is slow but it appears to me that the PLAN is making tremendous strides in their CV program.

I'd like to see more aircraft aboard the ship and night time flight operations.
 

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Here is another picture from the same source. They say it's the end module for the stern. I think we will be seeing construction work on the flight deck begin soon.
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I'm not sure about that, however I still have problems to identify where is what on the Liaoning in comparison to this CV-001A. As such I have that strange feeling that right now at least one more deck is missing before the flight deck can be attached. Or can anyone help me out ?

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