And in future China will develop something that US want to counter "immediately" and spend excessive amounts of money on to catch up to.
PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)
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Here are the pictures I will use in my upcoming 2016 PLAN Report, and annual report I have been doing for the last 10+ years.
When speaking of the construction of the Type 001A Carrier I will use the following. The first four are progress on the hull up to the hanger deck:
When speaking of the construction of the Type 001A Carrier I will use the following. The first four are progress on the hull up to the hanger deck:
The next four is the progress on the hanger deck:
This is very rapid construction.
They have done all of this in a single year. speaks to extremely good planning and logistics.
But is is also a little concerning. This type of progress on a full carrier would usually take two or more years.
This is very rapid construction.
They have done all of this in a single year. speaks to extremely good planning and logistics.
But is is also a little concerning. This type of progress on a full carrier would usually take two or more years.
asif iqbal
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Chinese carrier strike package coming soon !
plawolf
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I have first hand experience with British marine manufacturing, and it does not surprise me in the least that Chinese yards can do the same work in significantly less time.
Saying that, they are using modular construction, so the steel might have been first cut a year or two in advanced. We only noticed that they are building a carrier after they started assembling the finished modules.
The time from when steel was first cut to this stage now is likely to be significantly longer than the time since we first noticed dry dock activity.
It depends on the quality of the shipyard. Chinese shipyards are newer than most other shipyards in the World. If these methods were to be used in a Nimitz or Ford class ship how much faster could building be? But that would lead to a larger flattop fleet than US can pay for.
Of course this is just the steel being assembled into the hull. But if the ship is built in two or three years and is taken out of the building dock then fitting out should take the same amount of time so that while one ship is being fitted out the next can be building and maximal advantage can be had from the gaining of experience.
China has a very different flattop program than UK where two are built and then it stops until perhaps in forty years time ...
kwaigonegin
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PLAN is not playing around. They are extremely serious about their carrier ambitions. We better start pumpin out ford class like hotcakes to match!
lcloo
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Progress of the modular assembly very much depends on the speed of welding. Critical and difficult parts are handled by human welders, robot welders are deployed whenever possible. Robot welders work 24/7 and in all types of weather with no emotional stress.
When a module has been welded, the next one can be added with-out delay. This avoided idle time. The modules have been pre-fabricated with steels cut months or years ago, and are sitting on the dock side.
The seemingly fast progress is a perception which we made with-out taking into account the time of first steel cutting to the laying of keel. We should be reminded the building of 001A has been in progress for two or three years now.
Fitting out will take much longer time than hull assembly. And sea trial too. The commission date is expected to be 2020.
When a module has been welded, the next one can be added with-out delay. This avoided idle time. The modules have been pre-fabricated with steels cut months or years ago, and are sitting on the dock side.
The seemingly fast progress is a perception which we made with-out taking into account the time of first steel cutting to the laying of keel. We should be reminded the building of 001A has been in progress for two or three years now.
Fitting out will take much longer time than hull assembly. And sea trial too. The commission date is expected to be 2020.
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First of all, the second pic you show in that post, IMHO, is definitely not the carrier.earlier this year I suggested that one of the hulls at Jiang shipyard looks different from any other civilian vessels and resembles an early stage of a carrier construction.
thanks to GE and Icloo this theory must be considered confirmed.
hope Jeff will be able to admit he was wrong
As to your dig at me about the vessel that is being constructed, and hoping I will admit that I am wrong...read on.
Earlier I did indicate that I had my concerns about the vessel, and was unwilling to confirm it as a carrier at the time. I gave my reasons. I stand by that decision at the time.
But if you are going to make such a dig or supposition, you should really read through the thread before doing so. I stated my own feeling that it indeed is a carrier back on October 24th...almost two months ago. Here is the post:
Jeff Head gives his confirmation on Chinese 1st indigenous Aircraft Carrier
IOW, I already did...two months ago, right here on this thread.
Hope that helps.
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