shen
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he doesn't even know the difference between waterline dimensions and flight deck dimensions. as the Chinese saying, he should buy a piece of tofu and kill himself by smashing his head with it.
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he doesn't even know the difference between waterline dimensions and flight deck dimensions. as the Chinese saying, he should buy a piece of tofu and kill himself by smashing his head with it.
Yes, that's why I mentioned the date of the map photo even though I did the screencap yesterday. It's definitely older than the just posted satellite photo. It was the Liaoning placeholder on the waters next to the drydock that I am curious about.
JayBird
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Maybe the most important requirement to be the defense editor for The National Interest is how many times you can associating the words like stole, stealing, trouble, struggling, well behind with China in one article.This guy is clueless about Chinese military that you can pick any random SDF member and still more knowledgeable than him regarding Chinese military.
The article is embarrassingly bad for the credibility of The National Interest and himself. The next time he should write something he is actually expertise at like Indian indigenous alloys. At least that will teach us something we don't know and he can claim whatever he wanted about the superior India metallurgy.
But isn't this in general a most recent development - at least I have the feeling so - in US-media-reports ?
Everything from China is indeed either dangerous, they are provocative, they steal and copy, they violate common international (US) law ... and they are military-wise expanding !
Deino
Everything from China is indeed either dangerous, they are provocative, they steal and copy, they violate common international (US) law ... and they are military-wise expanding !
Deino
joshuatree
Captain
Given that China is a late comer to the development of aircraft carrier, I fail to see the point of the article on bashing China's rate of development for a carrier, aside from some feel good vibes by doing so. Yes, there are several weaknesses in their program which is holding the progression rate back but what happens when those hurdles are overcome? Article doesn't address any of it. Then there are contradictions that undermine the author.
Aside from the contradiction, how many PLAN vessels have been reported to be experiencing issues due to poor metallurgy? Been on this forum for years now and I can't recall any discussion of issues with poor metallurgy.
China probably could build an Enterprise era nuclear powered carrier if it desperately wants to do so. They do have nuclear powered subs and could put a bunch of those reactors in a carrier hull. But cooler heads are prevailing and their just biding their time on that wish list item till they are ready.
I'll just mention one last thing. Remember when all these authors were saying China couldn't make their own carrier arresting gear and the Russians won't sell those components so the Chinese are SOL? How did that prediction turn out?
Blackstone
Brigadier
To be fair, I see occasional balance in the US lame stream media vis-a-vis China. About 1 in 20 stories are either somewhat positive or very positive on China. There were even articles on the PLA and PLAN providing disaster relief and global public goods. On Fox News even!!
This article is largely based on 2008 Collins and Grubb's paper on Chinese shipbuilding industrial base, which the author quoted from. I failed to see how something written 7 years ago would still be relevant today, even more so when that particular paper didn't present so bleak a picture.
Perhaps in his frame of reference, China is like India, where nothing changes, relatively speaking. Reading comments by Indians, you may get an impressing that China is behind India, and will never catch up. How they do come to this impression I have no idea.
You can see the 'hospital ship' in front of it at the top edge of the photo.
This is so funny. I read the article a few days ago and--other than the overall tone of it--pretty much forget everything it said except this "Indian indigenous alloys."
I wanted to know what is the tonnage of liaoning. But found out that there are different versions of liaoning´s tonnage. Look at this sites, each with different tonnage:
So, does anyone knows what is liaoning´s true tonnage (standart and full) and what is the best site to get ships tonnage?
So, does anyone knows what is liaoning´s true tonnage (standart and full) and what is the best site to get ships tonnage?
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