PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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latenlazy

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rolking said:
Yes, i know. You say the same thing when J-20 was about to debut. ;) (See J-20 Thread 1 Post#529)
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Pfftt, not creepy. Who's keeping score? Besides, the J-20 was NOT about to debut when I made referenced comment. Comment was made in March. The J-20 was revealed at the end of Dec.

Anyways, I'm skeptical because it would seem to me that the J-20 might be a big design for carrier ops, especially since we're still expecting the nearest term CVs to stay below the 80,000 ton class range. We'll see though.
 
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shen said:
but read what the banner says. probably a PS though.
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I can assure you 100% what you are seeing are steam generators, for nuclear power plants that generate electricity for cities. As for the banner, the words "aircraft carrier" are used there to convey something very important, not a physical aircraft carrier.
 
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latenlazy

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Jeff Head said:
Sorry, building and operating a nuclear carrier is far more complicated than operating a conventionally powered carrier. The win is the savings in fuel...not the complicated nature.

The nuclear power plants necessary to successfully operate such a vessel will need to be far more advanced and efficient than what they operate currently on their subs.

As a result, it will be a good while before they try it.

So, here's what the PLAN has now:

1st carrier, CV, STOBAR, Liaoning, ex-Varyag, Launch 2011, in service 2012, End of life 2047

And here's my prediction:

1st indigenous carrier: CV, STOBAR, like Liaoning, start build 2013-2014, launch 2017-2018, commissioned 2019-2020
2nd indigenous carrier: CV, CATOBAR, 80,000 tons, start build 2015-2016, launch 2019-2020, commissioned 2021-2022
3rd indigenous carrier: CV, CATOBAR, 80,000 tons, start build 2017-2019, launch 2021-2023, commissioned 2023-2025
4th indigenous carrier, CVN, CATOBAR, 95,000 tons, start build, 2021-2022, launch 2027-2028, commissioned 2030-2031
5th indigenous carrier, CVN, CATOBAR, 95,000 tons, start build 2024-2025, launch 2031-2032, commissioned 2034-2035
6th indigenous carrier, CVN, CATOBA, 100,000 tons, replace Liaoning, start build 2040, launch 2045, commissioned 2047

Thereafter, they would replace all of the older ones as they retire with nuclear carriers.

Anyhow, time will tell who is closest...and in terms of raw capability, it will not make much difference if they really produce a Forrestal type conventional carrier with CATs...for all intent and purposes, outside of bunkerage for the fuel, their capabilities will be very close to the same.
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If I were the PLAN I would be looking at that timeline with every effort to figure out the safest way to cut some steps.
 
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Engineer said:
I can assure you 100% what you are seeing are steam generators, for nuclear power plants that generate electricity for cities. As for the banner, the words "aircraft carrier" are used there to convey something very important, not a physical aircraft carrier.
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oh i blieve you. i thought the banner has been photoshoped. I've been never seen 航母 used in the context of something important.
 
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dingyibvs

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latenlazy said:
If I were the PLAN I would be looking at that timeline with every effort to figure out the safest way to cut some steps.
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You can cut a lot of steps in it. For one, there's no reason why 002 can't be a CVN. Sure, it's complicated, but it ain't gonna get any less complicated in 10 years. If you're gonna build it, why not building it now?
 
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