Well some little Navy driver parked a C-130 on deck several times, and off again, great fun, but it was no doubt light???
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Well some little Navy driver parked a C-130 on deck several times, and off again, great fun, but it was no doubt light???
kwaigonegin
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With the prices of Lego these days the LEGO Liaoning may cost as much as the real thing
At any rate I wonder how many pieces to build that giant ship.
AssassinsMace
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I saw two starkly different numbers so it was a translation problem or typo. One was about 45,000 blocks and the other was 450,000.
asif iqbal
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New flight deck paint
asif iqbal
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Hagel inside the hanger of what looks to me as a mock up Z18
Blackstone
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New flight deck paint
That's a lot of red above the waterline, so she hasn't been provisioned yet.
StopSquarkS
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That does remind me to ask, have we seen or even heard anything on the AEW helix? It's just as crucial as the J-15s.
EDIT: Never mind, found it in naval helicopter thread.
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I hope that the current overhaul can change the deck markings on the Liaoning. Since China is using American style air ops they might as well take over American style deck markings. I like the American deck markings better than the Russian ones. Its a no nonsens aproach of just two side lines and a middle line to mark the runway that the planes have to land on. And a few very thin lines to mark were the deck crew should stand for safety. Its much better than the current system with all those red lines all over the deck. Is that really necessary to have all those red lines ? And do you really need to mark out were the helicopters should land ? Isn't that the job of the deck crew to guide them on to the right landing spot ? And do they need markings to tell the deck crew were the planes can spot on the flight deck ? The deck crew should know that. And lets also hope that they finally get rid of those wierd camouflage colored containers on the deck too. What are they for ? And the American deck markings saves many man hours from the overhaul too!
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ladioussupp
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According to Vice Admiral Ling-li Lan (ROC Navy retired), said in a seminar held in Taipei at August 15, PLA Navy will own 3 carriers on or before 2020. And DF-21 ASBM already constitute 2,500km anti-access range. Besides, PLA Navy has more Aegis ships than USN 7th fleet. (I guess 6x052C+ 4x052D > 2xTiconderoga + 7xBurke) Four-two of fifty two submarines are modernized.
However, he estimated that China still lay 30+ years behind US. And China may catch up with Japan's military power around 2030.
However, he estimated that China still lay 30+ years behind US. And China may catch up with Japan's military power around 2030.
Well the Chinese vessels are not AEGIS vessels. Maybe AEGIS-like, but their firepower is significantly less.
On the US Navy side, each Tico has 128 cells, each Burke has 96. Two Ticos + seven Burkes means 928 VLS cells + 16 separate ASM launchers, so 944 missiles for nine vessels.
For the Type 052C/D, you have six "Cs" with 48 cells each plus eight ASM launchers each, plus four "Ds" with 64 cells each. That's a total of 532 VLS plus 48 separate ASM launchers, or 580 missiles for ten ships.
US Navy 7th fleet AEGIS = 944 missiles
PLAN all fleets AEGIS-like= 580 missiles
A lot less overall firepower.
But then you would also have to add the three Korean AEGIS vessels and six JMSDF AEGIS vessels who are allied to the US.
The PLAN has made huge and impressive gains in the last ten years, but they still have a very significant ways to go to come close to the same combat power of the US AEGIS vessels...let alone the US plus her allies.
Those nine allied AEGIS ships add another 970 VLS cells plus 112 ASM launchers, or another, 1,082 missiles. Meaning the US Navy and her allies South Korea and Japan have a total o:
US and allies AEGIS vessels = 2,046 missiles
PLAN AEGIS-like vessels = 580 missiles
In ten years, the PLAN will add 8 more "Ds" and perhaps 8 Type 055s...16 AEGIS-like vessels in all.
In that same time frame, the US will add another 6 AEGIS vessels to the Pacific, Korea 3, Japan 2, and Australia 3...14 AEGIS vessels in all.
The huge disparity in overall firepower will remain.
And the US will have another 80 AEGIS vessels it could call upon from other places if it ever became necessary.
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