PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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Blackstone

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This is good photography.
 

shen

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I don't get the jumping and posing photos. I just don't get it.



Why? Really..tell me why.

I've long been an opponent of women aboard ships with men.

On the page below many members express their feelings on the subject of women aboard ships.

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/plan-aircraft-carrier-programme-news-views-164-6479.html

More opinions..

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/wor...inese-military-service-2-6691.html#post262458

I think the jumping and posing are attempt to show women can be in the military and feminine at the same time. PLAN want to recruit more females. PLAN is rapidly expanding its fleet. The navy needs all the qualified recruits it can attract. Chinese military is in effect an all volunteer force these days. The healthy civilian economy is serious competitor for qualified young people. There is no good reason to disqualify half of the population based on sex.
 

bd popeye

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I think the jumping and posing are attempt to show women can be in the military and feminine at the same time. PLAN want to recruit more females. PLAN is rapidly expanding its fleet. The navy needs all the qualified recruits it can attract. Chinese military is in effect an all volunteer force these days. The healthy civilian economy is serious competitor for qualified young people. There is no good reason to disqualify half of the population based on sex.

I've never stated women should not serve. I do feel they should not serve aboard ships with men. Someday perhaps the PLAN and other navies will have ships with all females crew.

Women as long as they are qualified should serve in the military if they so desire. However I do not feel they should serve along side men in combat situations.

Each and every navy on this Earth will operate it's navy as they see fit. I'm just expressing my opinion and have no intention of arguing with anyone.

Thank you.
 

luhai

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I think the jumping and posing are attempt to show women can be in the military and feminine at the same time. PLAN want to recruit more females. PLAN is rapidly expanding its fleet. The navy needs all the qualified recruits it can attract. Chinese military is in effect an all volunteer force these days. The healthy civilian economy is serious competitor for qualified young people. There is no good reason to disqualify half of the population based on sex.

Jumping while posing just means "having fun" in visual language. It's a extremely common pose for students and young people in China, both boys and girls. I guess the press is trying to convey that life in the Navy is "fun and exciting" rather the "dull and boring" as most people thought navy life to be. (though the latter may be closer to the truth, but that's not a good way to get recruits.)
 

Jeff Head

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Guys, let's get back on topic to the PLAN Carrier Program and the Liaoning specifically.

The PLAN has already assigned females to the Liaoning. The US Navy has them assigned to its carriers. This is not going to change so arguing it up or down is now moot.

Thanks for everyone's input on it...I can understand the feelings and opinions on it, but now lets get back on topic.
 

Jeff Head

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I found the following article on Newsweek about the Chinese and Russian Navies.

Fairly alarmist...but it does include this interesting introduction about the Chinese carrier:

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Newsweek said:
Few in China knew the truth two years ago, when then-president Hu Jintao travelled to a naval base in the northeastern city of Dalian to mark a signal moment in the rise of Chinese power: the unveiling of the Liaoning, the first aircraft carrier commissioned by Beijing’s navy.

More than a decade earlier, a penniless Ukraine government had sold the aging carrier at a fire-sale price to a Chinese company pledging to turn it into a floating casino. When it was towed out of the port of Nikolayevsk in 2001, everyone thought it was headed for the gambling haven of Macau. In fact, it was destined to become not only the symbol of China’s ambition to dominate the seas around it, but to project power thousands of miles from its coasts.

Sitting in Moscow, Russian president Vladimir Putin knew the truth, and it had to chafe: Here was yet another tangible symbol of the decline of what had been the second-most powerful navy on earth—that of the former Soviet Union.
 

Blitzo

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The article's title made me think China and Russia are vying for naval supremacy, rather than China and Russia vying with the USA.
 

Blackstone

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The article's title made me think China and Russia are vying for naval supremacy, rather than China and Russia vying with the USA.

When it's all said and done, Russia is still next door to China, with only 1/10th the population, and America is across the Pacific Ocean, 6,000 miles away. You do the math.
 

texx1

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When it's all said and done, Russia is still next door to China, with only 1/10th the population, and America is across the Pacific Ocean, 6,000 miles away. You do the math.

Again with the allusion to the supposed Chinese nefarious design on Siberia, I don't know how many time someone has to point this out, China doesn't want a large stretch of a frozen wasteland. Any resources in Siberia can be purchased through a mutually agreeable price. With Kiev in the bag, US led NATO also has a shared border with Russia.
 
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