PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

gpt

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My feel is that the Chinese manned moon mission will eventually (longer timeline) results in a moon base that can be militarized in relatively short period of time if needed.

This idea is shared by top American and Chinese leadership. As I've stated many times on the forum, the next few decades of cislunar activity will change everything here on Earth. Some of the things being suggested have ridiculous dual-use purposes, which will force a completely new understanding of deterrence, and consequently will bring everyone to the table for a new Outer Space and Arms Treaty.
 

Wrought

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There was a concept called "Brilliant Pebbles" in the cold war and it is the basis for the so called "Golden dome" project now. Basically you launch thousands of space based interceptors and spread them in LEO similar to Starlink, each interceptor has a certain delta-V available to maneuver.

Upon the detection of a launch, the interceptor that happens to be in the right place and the right time can maneuver to intercept it in boost phase.

There're reports that point out such a system is something of a lemon though and I tend to agree with them:
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The gist is that time window for boost phase interception is extremely short (3 to 5 mins), very small portion of your space based interceptors is in range to respond. A geologically concentrated launch from even a small nuclear state (say DPRK) can overwhelm you defense. Keep in mind your typical interceptor is not feather light tiny thing like your Starlink sate, those are KKV with at least 4km/s delta-V, the cost to launch and deploy them in numbers is far higher than Starlink. A credible defense system of this type is not economically viable.

While "Golden dome" maybe a lemon in missile defense, it could be extremely potent in the role of space warfare and space blockade. This is where I think it pose the greatest threat should US is able to field it.

I'm familiar with Brilliant Pebbles, which is a LEO system. But the other guy specifically said not in LEO.
 

Temstar

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The "Taiwan independence troll army" that can't hide
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A further enlarged list of cognitive warfare participants from ROC has been released, complete with each of their national ID number:1760153767849.png
Xiamen Police is offering a bounty of 10,000RMB for anyone offering leads that would lead to their arrest
Xiamen Police says they compiled this list from Taiwanese people reporting these individuals.
 

bsdnf

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Doesn't China generally not do this unless they're fairly sure they can actually catch the people on the wanted poster fairly soon? Like with the Myanmar scammers.

It really does feel like something is going to happen soon. Lots of escalations all around.
This is not the first time. Last time, identities of some Taiwan’s military cyber warfare personnel were also made public. This is a form of public humiliation.
 

bsdnf

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The commander of the Taiwanese navy admitted that the “main engine and power management system” and the “Integrated Platform Management System” (IPMS) not yet completed acceptance, so this submarine still cannot submerge.

Honestly, Taiwan's domestically developed submarine program is the most confusing project I've ever seen. The two Dutch Zwaardvis-class submarines in the Taiwanese navy's fleet are already 35 years old. With little experience operating modern submarines, no experience building submarines, no technical knowledge, and no independent production capabilities, they're being cobbled domestic submarine together from scratch, importing most subsystems. Even if they manage to build it, how effective could its stealth performance be?

Within the first island chain, the only USN vessels capable of threatening the PLAN are submarines, so the PLA is doubling down its resources on ASW. Using this junky hull against an ASW network designed to handle the most powerful submarines is pretty hopeless, isn't it? Taiwan Navy officials are not even aware of this or are deliberately concealing it, defending the project by saying that "each ship built will force the other side to invest ten times more resources to respond."

And the result? Even worse, hulls with uneven surfaces and subsystems that barely function, serious corruption exists at nearly every stage.. It's all just a desperate last stand.
 
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Maikeru

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The commander of the Taiwanese navy admitted that the “main engine and power management system” and the “Integrated Platform Management System” (IPMS) not yet completed acceptance, so this submarine still cannot submerge.

Honestly, Taiwan's domestically developed submarine program is the most confusing project I've ever seen. The two Dutch Zwaardvis-class submarines in the Taiwanese navy's fleet are already 35 years old. With little experience operating modern submarines, no experience building submarines, no technical knowledge, and no independent production capabilities, they're being cobbled domestic submarine together from scratch, importing most subsystems. Even if they manage to build it, how effective could its stealth performance be?

Within the first island chain, the only USN vessels capable of threatening the PLAN are submarines, so the PLA is doubling down its resources on ASW. Using this junky hull against an ASW network designed to handle the most powerful submarines is pretty hopeless, isn't it? Taiwan Navy officials are not even aware of this or are deliberately concealing it, defending the project by saying that "each ship built will force the other side to invest ten times more resources to respond."

And the result? Even worse, hulls with uneven surfaces and subsystems that barely function, serious corruption exists at nearly every stage.. It's all just a desperate last stand.
The point is not to defend Taiwan. The point is to convince the Taiwanese and, more particularly, the US, that they're actually trying to defend Taiwan.
 
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