PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Zhejiang

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People have already highlighted here that what you consider war crimes are actually legitimate war activities conducted by every serious nation. Enemy militaries must be deprived of electricity, water, logistical networks, and communications/connectivity. Given militaries use and take what they need from the locales in which they operate, the only way to successfully deprive them of these is to eliminate the civilian infrastructure as well. Civilians can't allow militaries to operate in their locality and expect to continue having access to modern utilities. Hence why any sensible civilians flee at the start of military operations in their region.
And like I said before dual use doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want and it’s no war crime given citizens need them. To bombing every power station and fuel depot isn’t a legitimate military target because it effects civilians massively. But again we can agree to disagree
 

CMP

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And like I said before dual use doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want and it’s no war crime given citizens need them. To bombing every power station and fuel depot isn’t a legitimate military target because it effects civilians massively. But again we can agree to disagree
You're using your own definition of war crime that is not in line with even the highest standards and conduct of any major military across the world. And yet you insist China must exceed all present and historical standards and act as an angel. You're a troll, a bot, or a child.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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2 things, I made that comment several days ago and not doing massive war crimes aren’t war defeating measures. I’m pretty sure China can win without destroying everything Taiwanese civilians need. But we can agree to disagree
Your certitude lacks real-world merit and examples to back up your incredible yet confident assertion that the PLA must, under any and all circumstances, take such strategic measures for human rights considerations and the eventual deep-seated psychological trauma successive generations may hold—thereby further complicating Phase IV operations in Taiwan.

My answer to your admirable principle is GERMANY AND JAPAN. The former was bombed to kingdom come by the U.S. (Dresden and other industrial heartlands of Germany), while Japan tasted nuclear weapons twice—on top of the Tokyo firebombing raid that made Curtis LeMay giddy!

The main interest and strategic goal of China is to have Taiwan firmly and squarely back where she belongs!
 

CMP

Captain
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Your certitude lacks real-world merit and examples to back up your incredible yet confident assertion that the PLA must, under any and all circumstances, take such strategic measures for human rights considerations and the eventual deep-seated psychological trauma successive generations may hold—thereby further complicating Phase IV operations in Taiwan.

My answer to your admirable principle is GERMANY AND JAPAN. The former was bombed to kingdom come by the U.S. (Dresden and other industrial heartlands of Germany), while Japan tasted nuclear weapons twice—on top of the Tokyo firebombing raid that made Curtis LeMay giddy!

The main interest and strategic goal of China is to have Taiwan firmly and squarely back where she belongs!
I'm fairly certain he's a Westoid troll, a child, or a bot. The most Westoid trolls on Chinese English-language forums like to hide behind alias and location that suggests they are Chinese. Just like that old Westoid pro-HK independence psyop operative on X during their active color revolution efforts. Pretending to be a young HK female if I remember correctly. It was then revealed he was a balding middle aged white guy from Europe being paid to push Western psyop objectives.
 

Zhejiang

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You're using your own definition of war crime that is not in line with even the highest standards and conduct of any major military across the world. And yet you insist China must exceed all present and historical standards and act as an angel. You're a troll, a bot, or a child.
My definition of war crimes is what the Geneva convention says, and not bombing every power station or fuel depot isn’t acting like an angel.
Your certitude lacks real-world merit and examples to back up your incredible yet confident assertion that the PLA must, under any and all circumstances, take such strategic measures for human rights considerations and the eventual deep-seated psychological trauma successive generations may hold—thereby further complicating Phase IV operations in Taiwan.

My answer to your admirable principle is GERMANY AND JAPAN. The former was bombed to kingdom come by the U.S. (Dresden and other industrial heartlands of Germany), while Japan tasted nuclear weapons twice—on top of the Tokyo firebombing raid that made Curtis LeMay giddy!

The main interest and strategic goal of China is to have Taiwan firmly and squarely back where she belongs!
We can agree to disagree on the way to do it, but I don’t think it’s necessary for China to bomb every power plant and fuel depot in Taiwan to achieve the goal of AR and I’m not saying don’t anything I’m saying it shouldn’t be do whatever you want it doesn’t matter what I think that’s where the disagreement is.
 

CMP

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My definition of war crimes is what the Geneva convention says, and not bombing every power station or fuel depot isn’t acting like an angel.

We can agree to disagree on the way to do it, but I don’t think it’s necessary for China to bomb every power plant and fuel depot in Taiwan to achieve the goal of AR and I’m not saying don’t anything I’m saying it shouldn’t be do whatever you want it doesn’t matter what I think that’s where the disagreement is.
lol do you even know what's in the geneva convention?
  • Protects wounded/sick soldiers
  • Safeguards prisoners of war
  • Shields civilians in conflict zones (note: shield civilians, not their infrastructure).
  • Prohibits torture and inhumane treatment
  • Requires distinction between combatants/civilians (again, civilians, not civilian infrastructure).
  • Protects medical personnel and medical facilities
Infrastructure is legitimate war target.
 

Zhejiang

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lol do you even know what's in the geneva convention?
  • Protects wounded/sick soldiers
  • Safeguards prisoners of war
  • Shields civilians in conflict zones (note: shield civilians, not their infrastructure).
  • Prohibits torture and inhumane treatment
  • Requires distinction between combatants/civilians (again, civilians, not civilian infrastructure).
  • Protects medical personnel and facilities
Infrastructure is legitimate war target.
I mean that’s just wrong, civilian infrastructure is absolutely protected unless it meets a standard. Agree to disagree I guess.
 

CMP

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I mean that’s just wrong, civilian infrastructure is absolutely protected unless it meets a standard. Agree to disagree I guess.
Lol you don't even know what you're talking about. Civilian infrastructure loses their protected status if they become military objectives - meaning if they make an effective contribution to military action and their destruction offers a definite military advantage. In order for the civilian infrastructure to retain protected status, it would have to mean that the loss of them does not create a disadvantage for Taiwan's military. Good luck proving that.
 

Zhejiang

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Lol you don't even know what you're talking about. Civilian infrastructure loses their protected status if they become military objectives - meaning if they make an effective contribution to military action and their destruction offers a definite military advantage. In order for the civilian infrastructure to retain protected status, it would have to mean that the loss of them does not create a disadvantage for Taiwan's military. Good luck proving that.
You are aware before I did say that, but not every dual use infrastructure is a legitimate target, if Taiwan uses every single one and every one if destroyed creates a massive advantage for China then yes, but if not then you can’t. All I’m saying is you can’t just do whatever you want in AR.
 
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