PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Biscuits

Colonel
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China won’t wipe the Japanese out, they are not Anglos!

What China will do is total denazification of the Japanese society and demilitarisation of the Japanese nation ala post WWII German treatment, and what the Allies should have done but didn’t, because the lion share of Japan’s atrocities weren’t committed against whites so they didn’t give a fuck and preferred to have all the research notes from all the horrific experiments they did on living civilian victims.
Yes, if the war goes without much damage to Taiwan or even the mainland. Sentiments change if Japan/other invaders actually achieve some operational success.

Still there's nothing that Japan can do to stop Chinese aerial campaign, and there will be many times more explosives dropped on them than in all ww2. This is obviously a terrible deal for the Japanese people, so they should avoid it at all cost.
 

Iron Man

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Agree. I don't see any war happening anytime this coming decades actually. The only way China will launch an invasion of Taiwan or start a war is if Taiwan declares independence. Short of that, I don't think the CCP will risk any sort of confrontation with all the associated economic, financial. Geopolitical and military risks that involves. Chinese leadership is generally risk averse. So the status quo will carry on except Taiwan acts foolish and declares independence
I think there is a bimodal distribution of probabilities here. IMO chances are high that in 2027/2028 China may try to take advantage of a non-interventionalist president like Trump to attempt AR. If not, then the next 'hump' will be as Xi winds down his career; he may feel he should be the one to achieve the reunification of Taiwan with the mainland but may be willing to wait until time has given the Chinese military (and economy) the longest time possible to expand and mature before attempting AR.

Bought from Alibaba obviously. Not surprising considering this is how some Taiwanese soldiers shoot pistol (not AI generated image):
This definitely beats both the nipple level armor rigs and gripping a rifle by the barrel..... but not by much.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Yes, if the war goes without much damage to Taiwan or even the mainland. Sentiments change if Japan/other invaders actually achieve some operational success.

Still there's nothing that Japan can do to stop Chinese aerial campaign, and there will be many times more explosives dropped on them than in all ww2. This is obviously a terrible deal for the Japanese people, so they should avoid it at all cost.

Principles are only principles if you still hold to them when it’s hard and inconvenient to do so, otherwise they are just aspirations at best, and hypocrisy otherwise.

If China was a demagogue-cracy like the west, then there would be a risk of bad leaders allowing such sentiments to prevail, or even actively encouraging it. But I don’t think modern China will resort of such tactics.

If the Japanese do fight hard and refuse to be dissuaded, then instead I see China turning that frustration and anger into determination and resolve, and it won’t just be an air and sea campaign, but a full invasion of the Japanese home islands. At that point, if they want to turn themselves into another Ukraine, the PLA will gladly oblige and show the world the true potential of drone warfare with purpose built combat drones instead of converted toys and farming tools.
 

Biscuits

Colonel
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Principles are only principles if you still hold to them when it’s hard and inconvenient to do so, otherwise they are just aspirations at best, and hypocrisy otherwise.

If China was a demagogue-cracy like the west, then there would be a risk of bad leaders allowing such sentiments to prevail, or even actively encouraging it. But I don’t think modern China will resort of such tactics.

If the Japanese do fight hard and refuse to be dissuaded, then instead I see China turning that frustration and anger into determination and resolve, and it won’t just be an air and sea campaign, but a full invasion of the Japanese home islands. At that point, if they want to turn themselves into another Ukraine, the PLA will gladly oblige and show the world the true potential of drone warfare with purpose built combat drones instead of converted toys and farming tools.
That's what I mean, door to door, bomb to bomb until no more invader threat remains.

This is about the stupidest thing Japan can choose but from China's perspective, it's fine.
 

A potato

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guarranted US gonna play the old trick , launch sortie from japanese soil > lure china missile attack > both US/japan cry out loud china attack me > rally their people for war and payback

unless miracle happen some japan top level person go again US will and refuse letting US use japan soil for any active fighting action

same shit with korea , philippine , thailand , australia
Thailand is 100% not going to fight China.
 

sr338

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guarranted US gonna play the old trick , launch sortie from japanese soil > lure china missile attack > both US/japan cry out loud china attack me > rally their people for war and payback

unless miracle happen some japan top level person go again US will and refuse letting US use japan soil for any active fighting action

same shit with korea , philippine , thailand , australia
Great! Japan get bombed to pre-industrial level and the USA get pushed back to North America.
Do you have any sense of actual power difference between US and China? lol
 

Neurosmith

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I think there is a bimodal distribution of probabilities here. IMO chances are high that in 2027/2028 China may try to take advantage of a non-interventionalist president like Trump to attempt AR. If not, then the next 'hump' will be as Xi winds down his career; he may feel he should be the one to achieve the reunification of Taiwan with the mainland but may be willing to wait until time has given the Chinese military (and economy) the longest time possible to expand and mature before attempting AR.
I don't think China would resort to kinetic options in the absence of severe provocation or crossing of red lines. I'd even go as far as to say that China would unlikely respond military even if Taiwan verbally declares independence without a drastic change to its foreign policy.

China's policy is that the Taiwan issue is to be resolved peacefully unless all options are out. The optics of a hypothetical conflict are extremely important and I doubt China would be okay with being the ones during the first shot.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
I don't think China would resort to kinetic options in the absence of severe provocation or crossing of red lines.
This is correct, and the last thing here that is correct.
I'd even go as far as to say that China would unlikely respond military even if Taiwan verbally declares independence without a drastic change to its foreign policy.
ROC has no pro-PRC policies. They have their own currency, passport, governing body, etc... The absent declaration of independence is the last line that holds them as part of China. That is the only thing that the PRC can look to as a reason not to attack. If this is broken and there is no military action to bring them under control, then that is acceptance of their independence. It is Chinese policy to attack in that event.
China's policy is that the Taiwan issue is to be resolved peacefully unless all options are out.
Ok this is also correct but this is a repeat of the first sentence.
The optics of a hypothetical conflict are extremely important
No. Optics for whom? To the West, China will always be wrong. To China's allies, China has been clear on the issue and every country understands by accepting the One China Policy, which is a requirement for diplomatic relations with China. No other country cares enough to have an opinion.
and I doubt China would be okay with being the ones during the first shot.
We definitly are ok with it, because the ROC can become independent through declaration. They don't ever have to fire a shot to get there and nobody in the world is stupid enough to shoot at us while making the declaration. So if we won't fire the first shot, then we can only watch as they slip away and that is not what we are about.
 
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bsdnf

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I don't think China would resort to kinetic options in the absence of severe provocation or crossing of red lines. I'd even go as far as to say that China would unlikely respond military even if Taiwan verbally declares independence without a drastic change to its foreign policy.

China's policy is that the Taiwan issue is to be resolved peacefully unless all options are out. The optics of a hypothetical conflict are extremely important and I doubt China would be okay with being the ones during the first shot.
In fact, it is not so certain. Since last year, the official tone has changed to "unswervingly promote reunification" instead of "peaceful reunification". Military reunification, even if the Taiwan has not formally declared independence, is obviously taken into consideration. The Taiwan issue involves the legitimacy of the PRC. It is unthinkable for the PRC to allow Taiwan to declare independence.
 
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