PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Moonscape

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I think a war involved in landing troops into Taiwan is a bad idea. If I am in charge, I would just bomb every military installations, presidential palace, all bunker and hideouts, and schools and call it a day. That is how the israel won the war. Most gaza and Lebanon leaders are dead without even stepping foot on the enemy's territory.

On the other hand, if the enemy is demoralized and doesn't want to fight, you can march in with 300 troops and take over without a single shot fired, see Syria and Afghanistan.

Note that Israel still does not control Lebanon or Gaza, but the Syrian rebels do control Syria and the Taliban does control Afghanistan. You can't acquire and hold territory without troops on the ground.
 

Almond98

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I think a war involved in landing troops into Taiwan is a bad idea. If I am in charge, I would just bomb every military installations, presidential palace, all bunker and hideouts, and schools and call it a day. That is how the israel won the war. Most gaza and Lebanon leaders are dead without even stepping foot on the enemy's territory.
You call that a victory after wiping out entire Gaza city? China is not Israel where they are going to destroy each and every house calling them terrorist hideout. They believe Taiwanese are part of Chinese. What they are going to do is destroy every military base, bunkers, airports, ports, electric utilities, defense company, air defense system and any place that has missile launchpad before landing troops on Taiwan. The main goal of PLA is to reunify Taiwan not to wipe out the nation.
 

00CuriousObserver

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December '28 it is then. It's also twilight zone between Trump II and whatever comes after.

Maybe. I genuinely wonder what the calculus is like, if any political significance is going to be more beneficial than all the other factors.

We have Shigeru Ishiba and likely Lee Jae-myung around that time too, but waiting a bit longer potentially benefits the military balance in China's favour.

Nonetheless, given recent developments, China's internal politics might be the big hurdle to watch. I.e. the economy, and leadership in the 2030s: will Xi remain in power for a 5th term? If so, will he be powerful enough? If not, will his successor view this as a priority?

I think a war involved in landing troops into Taiwan is a bad idea.

China will almost certainly need to land troops on Taiwan and is preparing to do so nonetheless.
 

ismellcopium

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By that time >600 J-20 should be in service+up to 100 J-35(A).

At total of 1500 4.5th and 5th gen fighter should be in service by then.
My projected PLAAF ORBAT for December 2027, using conservative figures:

4th gens:
330 J-10A/S (excluding obsolete base J-10s)
100 J-11A (excluding base J-11s & Su-27)
125 Su-30MKK/MK2/Su-35

Although many of these are receiving borderline 4.5gen upgrades like AESA, PL-10/15, and improved datalinks.

4.5th gens:
500 J-16
310 J-10B/C
220 J-11B/BS/BG/BGH

Total: 1584, NOT including J-15, J-15T or 200 JH-7As. This figure may be somewhat higher with variation in above figures, particularly uncertainty in J-10 & J-11 figures.

5th gens (J-20/A + J-35/A): minimum 700, possibly closer to 800 dependent on how fast SAC can produce J-35 in the next 2 years & J-20 rates. Total 4th + 5th gen: 2284 min.

Plus a massive number of force multiplier & special mission aircraft.

In combination with the PLARF, PLAN, H-6 fleet, & UCAVs, this is more than sufficient for a comprehensive defeat of US & allied forces in Westpac, imo.

003 & 076 should also be fully operational by that time.
 

GOODTREE

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will Xi remain in power for a 5th term? If so, will he be powerful enough? If not, will his successor view this as a priority?
President Xi has been overseeing military reform and construction since 2015. And there has been very good continuity in both of these policies.
I personally see see no reason to think that there is any reason to suddenly change leaders before the liberation of Taiwan. It would only undermine that continuity.
 

00CuriousObserver

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President Xi has been overseeing military reform and construction since 2015. And there has been very good continuity in both of these policies.
I personally see see no reason to think that there is any reason to suddenly change leaders before the liberation of Taiwan. It would only undermine that continuity.

Assuming it's not done shortly before or after 2030, his age is one reason (though depending on his health, it might be a relatively minor factor). A 5th term is also politically difficult.

I won't go into the politics of China too much but it's a complicated issue and there is far more to consider here than just his military accomplishments.
 

GOODTREE

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Assuming it's not done shortly before or after 2030, his age is one reason (though depending on his health, it might be a relatively minor factor). A 5th term is also politically difficult.

I won't go into the politics of China too much but it's a complicated issue and there is far more to consider here than just his military accomplishments.
The term limits for the State President has been eliminated since 2018, and there are no such limits for President Xi's other two key positions - General Secretary and Army Chairman - so I think it could work politically.
As for health reasons, I can only wish him well.
 
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GOODTREE

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The term limits for the State President has been eliminated since 2018, and there are no such limits for President Xi's other two key positions - General Secretary and Army Chairman - so I think it could work politically.
As for health reasons, I can only wish him well.
Assuming President Xi's health deteriorates rapidly in the future (and let's hope it doesn't), I think he will at the very least hold out until he personally gives the resolution to liberate Taiwan. Leaders tend to be especially important when their decisions are needed.
 

oseaidjubzac

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Assuming President Xi's health deteriorates rapidly in the future (and let's hope it doesn't), I think he will at the very least hold out until he personally gives the resolution to liberate Taiwan. Leaders tend to be especially important when their decisions are needed.
It is considered that all of the general secretary have longevity, so the possibility is very small.
 
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