The big thing is for the PLAN to be able to conduct and win a true deep ocean 'Battle of the Pacific' on a similar level as the Allies did against the U-boats in the Atlantic in both world wars, but on an even greater strategic scale.
PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency
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No, why would China do that? Sure once a lot of 095 come online and they become overwhelming in numbers relative to USN submarine fleet, they can break out into US side of the Pacific and terrorize shipping freely, but the main focus for China is defending itself firstly.
As long as China defends the 1st island chain, which mainly requires air assets, mobile naval strike groups and missiles, the coastline will be free to build hundreds of warships for the eventual east Pacific front of the war.
Current status of China's 1st line of defense: SCS/Hainan = fully ready. Korean peninsula = half ours, but the other half is deterred from fighting so effectively neutral. Taiwan/Easternmost China = many defenses deployed but complicated by KMT insurgency.
Holding that line is the absolute greatest key to crushing an American offensive or even a preemptive strike on US before their aggression further increases. So that's where assets should be invested in. UAVs, missiles, J-20s, surface ships with good ASW, new bombers etc.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Why? China isn’t a tiny island nation dependent on shipping lifelines. It can forgot sea based trade entirely in times of war if needed. The primary reason for the need of a strong navy is to defend its coastal heartland from enemy naval attack. But once China has established coastal defensive shield in the first and second island chains, there isn’t a desperate need for its naval forces to venture further out unless we get to the near silly scenario of a full scale invasion of CONUS. But in that case going through Alaska via Russia would be a far better move than trying to do landings in Santa Monica through to San Diego.
FriedRiceNSpice
Captain
So the best place for China to attempt to disrupt trade from Asia to the US is... the middle of the Pacific???
Does the Indian military teach martial arts? What makes the Chinese so much better in hand fighting?
I mean while there's some statistical truth about Indian physical weakness and it's a good way to troll hindu nationalists, the actual answer is crowd control weapons + coordinated training + riot gear mostly.
20 riot police can often stop a 100-200 strong mob. And often the police (esp in some countries) will straight up be fatter and have worse stamina than the average street civilian.
I don't think this statement is accurate.
A 041 is as silent as ocean background noise. And when they're in defensive positions, a Virginia will more likely than not either run into 2+ 041s or 041 + supporting ASW and ISR. Which would be nearly a death sentence for the Virginia.
Even just in a pure 1 on 1, both subs have similar noise levels so its a dice roll. But defensively around the 1st island chain, it's not gonna be a 1 on 1.
So yes that's an accurate statement relative to the battleground they will face eachother in. The US subs can run around faster and essentially be free in the mid/east Pacific, but a sub duel in where US needs their subs to be in order to have major effect on the war would favor PLAN subs.
lcloo
Captain
Ther is no 041 in PLAN.
Whatever you choose to call these
Which don't have an official name aside from "type 039" but they're also very clearly much different from the basic 039s, so I find it prudent to separate them