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Saru said:
That's speculations, Nothing has been stated that they really are training ammunition besides using training ammunition is useless if they don't perform the same manner roughly.

While training cartridges exist it is odd to see that we only saw it being used once in that video and suddenly then never.. but that may have never been the case either. For all we know it could have been proper ammunition.
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Saru said:
What he says should be taken with grain of salt nothing has been confirmed it's all speculations and assumptions what's really going on in that footage.

I find it strange how PLA shows this training round which isn't even specified It's just a footage of them shooting at practice targets only once.

Then we never see it being replicated ever again if those training rounds were so useful wouldn't the PLA prioritize them?

Unless they have moved to more effective ways of firearms practice.

Right now they rely on blanks, VR and even laser guns.
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I am very surprised that you genuinely believe this, given you've been doing this PLA watching thing for not exactly a short duration and you seem to have some basic knowledge of PRC small arms.

It's fairly common knowledge that the PLA has dedicated training rounds for 5.8mm which have a brass coloured case and a hollow rubber projectile.

If you aren't aware of it, or if you find it strange, then that's just a skill issue on your part.'


I'm going to give you an opportunity to reflect and respond to this, but you really have not conducted yourself with much common sense or self respect here.


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I'm going to give Saru an opportunity to reflect on this matter. He will get the chance to respond to the evidence presented to him, and following that a decision will be made.

Further posts by others at this stage will be deleted. Once a decision has been made, the thread will be appropriately cleaned.
 
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Blitzo said:
I am very surprised that you genuinely believe this, given you've been doing this PLA watching thing for not exactly a short duration and you seem to have some basic knowledge of PRC small arms.

It's fairly common knowledge that the PLA has dedicated training rounds for 5.8mm which have a brass coloured case and a hollow rubber projectile.

If you aren't aware of it, or if you find it strange, then that's just a skill issue on your part.'


I'm going to give you an opportunity to reflect and respond to this, but you really have not conducted yourself with much common sense or self respect here.


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Blitzo said:
I am very surprised that you genuinely believe this, given you've been doing this PLA watching thing for not exactly a short duration and you seem to have some basic knowledge of PRC small arms.

It's fairly common knowledge that the PLA has dedicated training rounds for 5.8mm which have a brass coloured case and a hollow rubber projectile.

If you aren't aware of it, or if you find it strange, then that's just a skill issue on your part.'


I'm going to give you an opportunity to reflect and respond to this, but you really have not conducted yourself with much common sense or self respect here.


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Honestly with that Footage is hard to make out whether if the projectile is black or not. So I'm just gonna leave it with it being a Practice round.

I withdraw my statements. I apologize for the inconvenience I have caused.
 
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Saru said:
Honestly with that Footage is hard to make out whether if the projectile is black or not. So I'm just gonna leave it with it being a Practice round.

I withdraw my statements.
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You have to do a bit more than that.
Do you also accept that your underlying world view and the assumptions which allowed you to entertain and argue for the idea that the QBZ-191 rifles could genuinely keyhole to begin with, was categorically flawed to begin with, and is less than what we expect for somewhere like SDF?

Putting it another way, the problem isn't so much that you had an incorrect opinion, the problem is that you pushed back when other more knowledgeable individuals told you to stand down and stop being silly.
 
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Blitzo said:
You have to do a bit more than that.
Do you also accept that your underlying world view and the assumptions which allowed you to entertain and argue for the idea that the QBZ-191 rifles could genuinely keyhole to begin with, was categorically flawed to begin with, and is less than what we expect for somewhere like SDF?

Putting it another way, the problem isn't so much that you had an incorrect opinion, the problem is that you pushed back when other more knowledgeable individuals told you to stand down and stop being silly.
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" Do you also accept that your underlying world view and the assumptions which allowed you to entertain and argue for the idea that the QBZ-191 rifles could genuinely keyhole to begin with, was categorically flawed to begin with, and is less than what we expect for somewhere like SDF? "

Yes, With my Incompetent judgement and flawed research about the QBZ-191.

I misconcluded I need to do better.
 
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Fine. I will let it slide on this occasion with a written warning, but on next violation there will be a ban.

I will leave the prior few pages of posts up as evidence for what occurred, with exception of a few short one liner posts which will be deleted. The thread will now be expected to move on. Further posts on the topic will be deleted.
 
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Type 81 has nothing to do with AK other than vague external appearance. The action is short stroke gas piston, rather than a long stroke. Action is the heart of the weapon, so if the two are different, they are not related. Most accessories aren’t even compatible.

Did you know Type 81 was still (probably still) made for export as late as a few years ago? So you think that they are purposely making newer and qualitatively worse rifles for some unknown reason? Like even if the reason was to save money, wouldn’t economies of scale dictate using similar materials and fabrication?

How can ergonomics be “worn out”? Do you think there is some kind of cushioning that can wear down? How can they be “overlapping”? Like you think there are 3 safeties and 6 charging handles?

What you are saying is grade A horsecrap. No proof whatsoever.
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Here are two Type 81s produced under local, er, "license" by Myanmar rebel groups. Left is Kachin, right is Wa.

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