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SanWenYu

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LawLeadsToPeace said:
Who has to carry, employ and run with the machine guns when the mounting equipment goes down? Who are the ones that have to pull the armored vehicle (especially MRAP’s or lighter vehicles) out of ditches when there are no recovery vehicles? Who are ones carrying the drones and other relevant gear more than 5 or even 6 miles due to enemy drones easily pinpointing vehicles?

The answer is people with high physique. The war in Ukraine, contrary to popular belief, has actually proven that fitness is a key variable to one’s survival over there. Sure, the NAFO brigade and Z-Bots have all posted pictures of drone pilots with cat ears. However, what they don’t show are the heavy gear and the rapid movement to quickly set up a camouflaged drone launch site. All of them require good fitness. Plus, the “Dad strength” is a real thing.

Finally, the stress factor is huge. Those with poor fitness will poorly adapt to stress that is inherent in war. People with poor fitness and chomp on snacks and cope about how tech makes fitness irrelevant die first.
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The OP is apparently trolling by saying that China is afraid of starting wars because of the seemingly "thin" physiques of the Chinese soldiers in that few photos.

My point is not about whether soldiers should have good fitness physically. That is obvious to any military fan and no need to argue. I was calling out the fact for the OP that physiques of soldiers is no longer a deciding factor in modern wars.
 
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SanWenYu said:
The OP is apparently trolling by saying that China is afraid of starting wars because of the "thin" physiques of Chinese soldiers in that few photos.

My point is not about whether soldiers should have good fitness physically. That is obvious to any military fan and no need to argue. I was calling out the fact for the OP that physiques of soldiers is no longer a deciding factor in modern wars.
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Then I think what you meant was physical aesthetics. In that case, I do agree. Bodybuilders can’t run for their lives and they burn out after a mile.
 
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Basic PLA knowledge: Due to the PLA's light infantry tradition, they are extremely obsessed with the long-distance marching ability of their soldiers.

A 5km armed cross-country run is the foundational skill. We're talking about cross-country running with a load of 13-22 kg, passing the test within 24-27 minutes, and this is done 1-2 times a week. Next up are 10km, 25km full gear (30kg+) march once a week, and 50km version once a month. Some high-intensity training even involves marching 50 kilometers every day for a few days or even a week

With this kind of physical training, soldiers' physiques naturally lean towards those of long-distance runners.
 
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paullaotzu

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Maybe we need a thread to discuss the PLA’s logistical support and include some videos from “军营的味道, The Taste of the Barracks.” Some of the comments reveal an excessive ignorance of the PLA’s logistical capabilities.
 
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SanWenYu said:
The OP is apparently trolling by saying that China is afraid of starting wars because of the seemingly "thin" physiques of the Chinese soldiers in that few photos.

My point is not about whether soldiers should have good fitness physically. That is obvious to any military fan and no need to argue. I was calling out the fact for the OP that physiques of soldiers is no longer a deciding factor in modern wars.
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Being fit physically didn’t stop them from getting locked by twin-seat flanker in a 2 vs 1 fight.
 
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bsdnf said:
Basic PLA knowledge: Due to the PLA's light infantry tradition, they are extremely obsessed with the long-distance marching ability of their soldiers.

A 5km armed cross-country run is the foundational skill. We're talking about cross-country running with a load of 13-22 kg, passing the test within 24-27 minutes, and this is done 1-2 times a week. Next up are 10km, 25km full gear (30kg+) march once a week, and 50km version once a month. Some high-intensity training even involves marching 50 kilometers every day for a few days or even a week

With this kind of physical training, soldiers' physiques naturally lean towards those of long-distance runners.
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Even now, the new training syllabus has reduced the test standard from 5km to 3km, "Test 3km, practice 5km, test 5km, then practice 8km, bring another gun when light carry" is still the norm.
 
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For reference with a western military, when I was in the Canadian Forces the standard was an annual 13km ruck march with 25kg backpack and full combat load (minus body armor). That standard was too high to maintain by the mid 2010s as recruitment failed to meet quotas and this annual test became compulsory only for combat roles (though some support units continued to do it at the discretion of the regimental commander). The 13km was preceded by practice run of 2, 5 and 7-8 km march practices in the month leading up to it.
 
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QJZ171 in the Gulf of Aden.

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paullaotzu

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Salvationist said:
PLA soldiers should at least meet trve warrior standards like the Texas National Guard
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Sorry, but leaving aside the fact that what you posted is off-topic, half of the people in that picture wouldn’t even pass the PLA’s enlistment medical examination. The U.S. military’s enlistment standards are too low; even people who wear glasses can get in, and more than 20% of active-duty troops are officially considered obese.
 
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