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[LawLeadsToPeace]

In the age of nuclear bombs and soon robotic warriors, you are still counting on human physique to win wars?

Partially yes, because it’s one of many variables that need to be measured when conducting war. Plus, nukes only serve as a deterrent against complete conquest, and robotic warriors are far, far from being even used for logistics in austere environments.

 

[Zhejiang]

PLA men looks so lack of lack of nutrition. You don't really feel confidence from the why they look. Xi is wise not to let PLA start the war

I think that’s just the way they look, I highly doubt a country with the 2nd largest defense budget can’t properly feed their troops the more logical explanation is simply that’s how they look

 

[SanWenYu]

Partially yes, because it’s one of many variables that need to be measured when conducting war. Plus, nukes only serve as a deterrent against complete conquest, and robotic warriors are far, far from being even used for logistics in austere environments.

Well, nuclear bombs and robotic warriors are just the symbols of two extremes. In between there are also machine guns, armoured vehicles, airplanes, missiles, and drones. Each one of them have made human physique a less and less requirement for winning wars.

 

[Aniah]

I think that’s just the way they look, I highly doubt a country with the 2nd largest defense budget can’t properly feed their troops the more logical explanation is simply that’s how they look

The whole statement he made is asinine and moronic beyond comprehension and should be a bannable offense.

Considering the fact that;

- The multiple Sino-Indian clashes and how they concluded
- PLACG literally jumping from ship to ship to arrest trespassers
- The thousands of videos of PLA food available, and I'm not talking about the MREs, but real food
- The basic common sense that people of different ethnicities have different physiques
- And even with the above point, there are pictures available of PLAGF looking like prime time Rambo

The original statement is in harsher words, moronic, and simply fucking stupid.

This is coming from a 6.1 ft +270 lb mainlander from Guangdong.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

Well, nuclear bombs and robotic warriors are just the symbols of two extremes. In between there are also machine guns, armoured vehicles, airplanes, missiles, and drones. Each one of them have made human physique a less and less requirement for winning wars.

Who has to carry, employ and run with the machine guns when the mounting equipment goes down? Who are the ones that have to pull the armored vehicle (especially MRAP’s or lighter vehicles) out of ditches when there are no recovery vehicles? Who are ones carrying the drones and other relevant gear more than 5 or even 6 miles due to enemy drones easily pinpointing vehicles?

The answer is people with high physique. The war in Ukraine, contrary to popular belief, has actually proven that fitness is a key variable to one’s survival over there. Sure, the NAFO brigade and Z-Bots have all posted pictures of drone pilots with cat ears. However, what they don’t show are the heavy gear and the rapid movement to quickly set up a camouflaged drone launch site. All of them require good fitness. Plus, the “Dad strength” is a real thing.

Finally, the stress factor is huge. Those with poor fitness will poorly adapt to stress that is inherent in war. People with poor fitness and chomp on snacks and cope about how tech makes fitness irrelevant die first.

 

[SanWenYu]

Who has to carry, employ and run with the machine guns when the mounting equipment goes down? Who are the ones that have to pull the armored vehicle (especially MRAP’s or lighter vehicles) out of ditches when there are no recovery vehicles? Who are ones carrying the drones and other relevant gear more than 5 or even 6 miles due to enemy drones easily pinpointing vehicles?

The answer is people with high physique. The war in Ukraine, contrary to popular belief, has actually proven that fitness is a key variable to one’s survival over there. Sure, the NAFO brigade and Z-Bots have all posted pictures of drone pilots with cat ears. However, what they don’t show are the heavy gear and the rapid movement to quickly set up a camouflaged drone launch site. All of them require good fitness. Plus, the “Dad strength” is a real thing.

Finally, the stress factor is huge. Those with poor fitness will poorly adapt to stress that is inherent in war. People with poor fitness and chomp on snacks and cope about how tech makes fitness irrelevant die first.

The OP is apparently trolling by saying that China is afraid of starting wars because of the seemingly "thin" physiques of the Chinese soldiers in that few photos.

My point is not about whether soldiers should have good fitness physically. That is obvious to any military fan and no need to argue. I was calling out the fact for the OP that physiques of soldiers is no longer a deciding factor in modern wars.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

The OP is apparently trolling by saying that China is afraid of starting wars because of the "thin" physiques of Chinese soldiers in that few photos.

My point is not about whether soldiers should have good fitness physically. That is obvious to any military fan and no need to argue. I was calling out the fact for the OP that physiques of soldiers is no longer a deciding factor in modern wars.

Then I think what you meant was physical aesthetics. In that case, I do agree. Bodybuilders can’t run for their lives and they burn out after a mile.

 

[bsdnf]

Basic PLA knowledge: Due to the PLA's light infantry tradition, they are extremely obsessed with the long-distance marching ability of their soldiers.

A 5km armed cross-country run is the foundational skill. We're talking about cross-country running with a load of 13-22 kg, passing the test within 24-27 minutes, and this is done 1-2 times a week. Next up are 10km, 25km full gear (30kg+) march once a week, and 50km version once a month. Some high-intensity training even involves marching 50 kilometers every day for a few days or even a week

With this kind of physical training, soldiers' physiques naturally lean towards those of long-distance runners.

 

[paullaotzu]

Maybe we need a thread to discuss the PLA’s logistical support and include some videos from “军营的味道, The Taste of the Barracks.” Some of the comments reveal an excessive ignorance of the PLA’s logistical capabilities.

 

[siegecrossbow]

The OP is apparently trolling by saying that China is afraid of starting wars because of the seemingly "thin" physiques of the Chinese soldiers in that few photos.

My point is not about whether soldiers should have good fitness physically. That is obvious to any military fan and no need to argue. I was calling out the fact for the OP that physiques of soldiers is no longer a deciding factor in modern wars.

Being fit physically didn’t stop them from getting locked by twin-seat flanker in a 2 vs 1 fight.