that was very clearly a joke aimed at the Texas NG, and I was referring to someone else's comments about PLA physical standards and physiques.
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PLA soldiers should at least meet trve warrior standards like the Texas National Guard
Poor trolling attempt. This would have made more impact
My 2c to this debate.
Size has weak correlation to strength. Go search youtube for this powerlifter Anatoly pranking gymbros who lift for aesthetics rather than actual strength.
I agree, all things being equal, a good big 'un will outdo a good small guy, especially in terms of dead weights (which is all your weapon, ammo and gear) and hand-to-hand stuff.
For dead weights though, it's arguably that by the time a big 'un trains to the level of cardiovascular required for field work, they would have slimed down to something other than your typical US grunt. As have been mentioned before, a lot of T1 operators are very normal looking. I wasn't specops, just light infantry and I have never weighed in at more than 70kg ever and I regularly carry a ~50% body weight load during exercises and have actually done ~150% for about 800m casevac (which is quite typical of the fitness level for my unit). So the idea that you need big bodies for moving heavy stuff for when the mechanised bits fail is true to an extant but I honestly find it rare the situations that a South-Chinese physique absolutely fails in that regard. Dragging a MG up a 2000m elevation, been there - done that. Heavy gear and rapid movement (8km in 1hr), been there done that. Pulling a vehicle out of a ditch ... okay, we call for the RV
(or judicious use of block-tackle-winch) but 12 of us have carried someone's Morris Mini onto the a heavy truck bed for shit and giggles before ...As for hand-to-hand ... we might as well argue about whether the bayonet should still be standard equipment (which it isn't anymore in a lot of modern militaries).
I don't think size of soldier is really a huge issue. It's a silly meme for red neck USians to troll us Asians with.
Americans are actually quite vain, as their entire society is filled with artificially enhanced male physiques cultivated by steroid use. This phenomenon extends far beyond just bodybuilders—it has permeated the military, police forces, and even the general civilian population. Steroid users often suffer from impaired cardiopulmonary function, which explains their poor physical performance at the UAE SWAT Challenge.
Has no one here heard of the the phrase "lean and mean"? In my experience the guys that are trained to the bones are more often the lean and mean type and not the bulky type, this is especially true for Asians
It's the same for the french legionnaires. 'Lean like a tom cat' came from them.
Can we talk about firearms now?
Is there any word on the PLA adopting a striker fired platform over the DA/SA qsz?
Would it be a good idea for to open a separate thread on Standards, Tactics, and Training? There is one thread that is out there but it's kind of dead