'MP7 at home'
........WHAT? They don't even look alike at all?
You could have said that it's a PP-19 Vityaz at home and I would understand but like.......
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........WHAT? They don't even look alike at all?
You could have said that it's a PP-19 Vityaz at home and I would understand but like.......
Their actions are actually quite similar in function. Both of them are gas-operated, short stroke piston, rotating bolt SMGs firing a bottleneck cartridge. The PP-19 is just a traditional closed-bolt blowback SMG like the Colt 9mm SMG or Mauser M712.
Are you arguing against someone saying optics are important with a congressional report talking about how optics equipped marksman used 1/150000 as many rounds per kill as non-optics equipped riflemen? Optics being issued en-masse did massively decrease the relevant ratios in later conflicts, even if they were still higher than most would expect.
Is your point that infantry equipped with small arms are irrelevant, so who cares if they have advanced sights? Not sure I follow.
He said "overestimate," not irrelevant. They are useful, but not the end-all be-all, and not the largest factor in war.
I think I agree with you. Optics massively an individual marksman's battlefield performance to a staggering degree, but when was the last time a battle was won by marksmanship? The static fighting of the GWOT was also an exception, allowing optics to shine massively when your foe had to crest a ridge to approach your FOB, and the hilly but not forested terrain of the Middle East required far longer ranges than any peer fight we have seen to date (read WWI, WWII, Korea).
Westerners will hate to admit it, but when your opponent isn't a cave-dweller with a rusted AK and blown out sandals and instead a reasonably modern infantryman (even with no earpro, limited NV, and a mediocre 3x optic), wars will be won on mass and momentum rather than being the drippedest outedest High Speed Low Drag Tier 1 (one) bearded oper8or with piggybacked red dots on LPVOs and ultra-high-cut Opscores.
We saw it in Korea and we saw it in the Eastern Front of WWII, that to win against a peer or near-peer one absolutely needs quantity, with quality be it in training or optics simply making the process easier.
I'm just to the idea that a single piece of artillery or tank is worth more than 50 tier one operators, and also a lot cheaper & faster to produce and field. Infantry is great for holding ground, but mechanized steel is better at taking ground.
btw the "-80" refer to caliber as far as i know,so this should be an 80mm launcher.The pic is from a PLA media.
Damn, left-side charging handle for the QCQ171? I thought they ditched those long ago.