shen
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Or a production line for CQ rifles. Same manual of arms as AR.
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Or a production line for CQ rifles. Same manual of arms as AR.
shen
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well, that deteriorated quickly.
Duterte on US rifles: China, Russia have 'all we want'
(philstar.com) | Updated November 2, 2016 - 8:32pm
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A US-made Remington M4 assault rifle, part of a shipment of around 27,000 the Armed Forces of the Philippines bought in 2014. File photo
MANILA, Philippines -- President Rodrigo Duterte has assailed the United States over the reported cancelation of the sale of some 26,000 rifles to the Philippine National Police as he stressed that he can source firearms from other countries like Russia and China.
Duterte, who has displayed animosity towards the US because of its criticisms against his anti-drug war, dismissed Washington’s supposed refusal to sell rifles as a mere scare tactic.
“'Yan lang pantakot niya sa akin? Hindi siya magpabili ng armas? Eh karaming de bomba dito. (That’s their only way to scare me? That they won’t sell firearms? We have several air guns here),” Duterte told reporters during his visit to his parents’ tombs in a Catholic cemetery in Davao City Tuesday night.
Duterte echoed the statement Wednesday during the sendoff of Vietnamese poachers in Sual, Pangasinan, where he described the Americans as “crazies” and “monkeys.”
“Look at those monkeys, the 26,000 rifles that we are supposed to buy from them, they no longer want to sell. Son of a b***h. We have lots of air guns here. Crazies! Those crazy Americans. Even that one?” the president said.
On Wednesday, Reuters reported that the US State Department has called off the sale of some 26,000 rifles to the PNP after US Sen. Ben Cardin threatened to oppose it due to human rights issues.
The Duterte administration has been accused of committing human rights violations in its campaign against narcotics, which has so far left more than 3,000 drug suspects dead.
The US, the Philippines’ longtime ally and treaty partner, has expressed concerns over the killings, a move that Duterte viewed as an interference in Manila’s affairs.
Last month, Duterte declared that he is “separating” from the US in terms of the economy and security but later on clarified that he is not severing ties with the superpower.
Officials claimed that the president was merely emphasizing the need for the Philippines to pursue a foreign policy that is more independent from the US.
Duterte said China and Russia are ready to provide the Philippines with the defense equipment it needs.
“The ambassador of Russia said ‘you come here to Russia. We have all that you want,” the Philippine leader said.
“Even China is open. (We can provide you) anything you want. They even sent us brochure,” he added.
'The US started it'
Duterte swore at the US five days after he promised not to curse anymore supposedly after hearing the voice of God.
“I was looking at the skies as I was coming over here. And everybody was asleep snoring. A voice said that you know ‘If you don’t stop, I will bring this plane down now.’ And I said, who is this? Of course, it’s God,” Duterte told reporters Friday night after his three-day official visit to Japan.
“So, I promised God not to express slang, cuss words,” he added.
Duterte clarified, though, at the same press conference that there is “always a time to be foul-mouthed.” Evidently, the president felt that Wednesday’s event was an appropriate time.
“For 50 years, you (US) benefited from my country. All the minerals belonged to you. Even the pineapples…and now you are noisy. Son of a b***ch. L***e,” the president said.
“I am angry. They are the ones who started it,” he added.
Duterte went on to justify his tirades against the US, saying American officials had disrespected him.
“We have a problem. (Do) you have a solution here? If you have, if you want to stick to America, fine,” he said.
“But you have to balance things. We are being disrespected.”
Duterte said in jest that Americans who would encounter problems at sea should not be given assistance.
“If they run out of gas, do not help the Americans. Let them float,” he said.
MwRYum
Major
Actually the Philippines has been producing various AR clones (M4 included) locally, sold locally and aboard (LE and civilian markets, even all the way to the US), but to what capacity isn't that clear though - ie. to supply that amount or whether they can complete the full process, from ingot to end-product.
If they need it urgently, China is probably the fastest one to ship to date.
MwRYum
Major
Dude, the AK family has been like that since 1947, almost 70 years now and I've heard no one dizz the AK for that design feature.
Now, the dizzing about this gun found online are largely 2 things:
1. the engraving (?) was allowed to pass with typo...somebody at QC was sleeping!
2. those "KeyMod" ain't real KeyMod, closeup shot indicates those KeyMod ain't processed to full KeyMod standard specifications.
It's not a fatal flaw, but one that could easily have been made otherwise, considering how many rifles there are out in the world with the charging handle on the correct side.
Just because the AK has been doing it wrong this whole time doesn't mean the new Chinese rifle should be doing it wrong also. 90% of the people on this planet are right-handed, meaning that it makes sense to develop a rifle that works far more ergonomically to have the charging handle on the left side for faster reloads and faster time back on target. In fact, you would be hard-pressed to name even one modern select fire rifle that has a charging handle on the right side besides this one and the AK family. IIRC the SA80 has a right-sided charging handle; OTOH the average British soldier reviles this weapon. Every other one either has it on the left, or on the top, or is ambidextrous (as really every modern rifle should be). SCAR-16/17, Tavor/X95, ARX160, CZ805, F2000, HK33, QBZ-95, Steyr AUG, etc. etc. I could go on and on.
Rising China
Junior Member
FYI for people not in the know this is just an artist's CGI and not official.
So is this for the PLA? I do remember seeing a similar prototype. I am really eager for the Chinese armed forces to get Clee aesthically pleasing and more modern assault rifles
The CGI posted by "Rising China" is not official and fanmade, it has nothing to do with the Chinese military's rifle project.
But there is definitely a new rifle project going on for the Chinese military, and the CS/LR17 is probably partly derived from the developments that have gone on so far. We do not know what the rifle the Chinese military will eventually adopt will look like, nor do we even know if they're going to commit to one at all.