PLA Small arms

MwRYum said:

Or else how would the PAP got their hands on small batch of Remington M700 series sniper rifles with foreign-made scopes, or Corner Shot, or FAST helmets, plus other Western Bloc products that falls under the Law Enforcement category?

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Do you know for a fact that the items you mentioned are export-restricted by the DOC? None of these items are high-tech items like the Streamlight laser/light and the Eotech red dot.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

There is alot of Counterfeiting to be sure, However It's unlikely that a PRC agency would procure a fake. The biggest issue with fakes it that they tend to fail under the stress of use.
as to US LE Gear Exports... It's well known to happen.

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Another factor to consider Iron is that products like that Streamlight are not unique to manufacture in the US. Streamlight "Assembles in the USA" as there product is composed of parts sourced from across the world. assembly in the US is to meet US Demand, Similarly production in other nations is a option.
There is also second hand export. Where Individuals will buy products here in the US then repackage and ship abroad. This is a method used quite widely.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "fake", but just because it is copied doesn't mean it is a bad product. The fact is that those units have different markings than the original products; in the end there is just no way for you to get around that fact.

Iron Man said:

Do you know for a fact that the items you mentioned are export-restricted by the DOC? None of these items are high-tech items like the Streamlight laser/light and the Eotech red dot.


I'm not sure what you mean by "fake", but just because it is copied doesn't mean it is a bad product. The fact is that those units have different markings than the original products; in the end there is just no way for you to get around that fact.

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If it was a case of "slipped the net" then we should've heard the FBI raided a few exporters state-side long ago. So it's either green-light or "grey-market" kind of situation. Can't be those cheap knock-offs that people put on their airsoft gun to look good and whatnot, because those things can't hold their zeros after a couple of real-gun recoils.

But so far, Chinese manufacturers still haven't come up with comparable analogue of those things, be it sub-MOA grade scopes or other higher-grade kits.

Look up Hawke sidewinders. One of, if not the most popular sub-MOA rifle scope on the civilian market today, and made in China.

It's a simple matter of supply and demand.

The PLA has no demand for such optics, so Chinese manufacturers are not providing the supply.

Optics are high precision equipment, but hardly beyond the ability of Chinese scientists and manufacturers.

As I said, as soon as the PLA decide it wants to issue such optics on a large scale, Chinese industry will provide them with plenty of attractive and viable options.

Until then, it's simply not economical for them to do anything other than cheap knock offs, because no western military would given Chinese optics a real chance to win a bid, and civilians treat optics as status symbols and value brand name as much as performance.

MwRYum said:

If it was a case of "slipped the net" then we should've heard the FBI raided a few exporters state-side long ago. So it's either green-light or "grey-market" kind of situation. Can't be those cheap knock-offs that people put on their airsoft gun to look good and whatnot, because those things can't hold their zeros after a couple of real-gun recoils.

But so far, Chinese manufacturers still haven't come up with comparable analogue of those things, be it sub-MOA grade scopes or other higher-grade kits.

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As I said, neither of those optics are green-lit or gray-market items. They are non-Streamlight non-Eotech units with different markings.

Photo of new assault rifle prototype leaked out

WestRiver said:

Photo of new assault rifle prototype leaked out
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I know the image is not that clear, but it looks as if there aren't a lot of rails for customization on this new assault rifle, and also, do we have a time frame for when this thing will enter service?

newguy02 said:

I know the image is not that clear, but it looks as if there aren't a lot of rails for customization on this new assault rifle, and also, do we have a time frame for when this thing will enter service?

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Could be again for export market, although the magazine curve is more akin to China's own 5.8mm instead of the STANAG, so again there's hope.

Also, the one on the left seems to have Picatinny Rail mount or something like that?

MwRYum said:

Could be again for export market, although the magazine curve is more akin to China's own 5.8mm instead of the STANAG, so again there's hope.

Also, the one on the left seems to have Picatinny Rail mount or something like that?

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Upon a closer look, it does seem to have some Picatinny Rails, it also seems as if they both have different muzzle brakes, and the one on the left also seems to be somewhat longer, but that could be the angle the photo was taken from.

IMHO, both have folding iron sights so there must be some kind of top rail for scopes. Can't see from this photo. The left one clearly has two pieces of rail under the barrel handguard, which is also longer than the one of the other rifle with no rail under the barrel.
The pistol grips are also different.

New lower handguard unit for 95-1 from Company Kingsong. Left is green laser pointer.


Some tactical solutions from this producer.