PLA Small arms
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According to the captioning, the QJZ-171 machine gun weighs 19.8kg.
Another reporter cites 19.5kg as the weight of QJZ-171.
Looks like the CS/LR17H got another update. New handguard and a lower receiver that seems to take after the QBZ191. Overall, much better than the last model. If it had an ambidextrous non-reciprocating charging handle then it could've been the closest "Sino-Scar" we could've got.More from Zhuhai. The placards are legible.
We got AKs, M4s, AK M4 Hybrids, and now all we're missing is a scar like.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
That’s not how these systems work despite the media clickbait.
What these are are an augmentation to the fundamentals of shooting. They augment by feeding the shooter range, orientation, atmospheric and trajectory data in an easy to read manner. However like GPS navigation it’s all useless if the person behind the controls is only capable of licking glass.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then Vortex are blushing
The XM157 fire control system for the U.S. Army’s Next Generation Squad weapons program.
Now what we have here is a modified first focal plane 1-8x30 power LPVO mated to a visible laser, IR laser, IR laser rangefinder, digital compass and atmospheric pressure, thermometer sensors. The data from which is run through a digital ballistic computer and projected on to the Focal plane reticle. The lasers are in the box at the top of the system which is detachable allowing future modifications.
Also built into the XM157 is a data export port it’s a 5 pin port Located under the objective lenses. That allows the scope to interface with an external controller or even potentially plug into another weapon with programmable ammunition like the U.S. Army’s Precision Grenade System bids. Barrett/MARS Squad Support Rifle System mockup shown at the AUSA last month in example mounted an XM157 optic. That system being the “son of the XM25” would use programmable airburst 30x42mm grenades.
Okay so what does this have to do with the Chinese one? Well because they are so similar we can make some educated guess about the system. For one thing we can see that this is modular the range finder module atop is similar to that of the XM157. We can also see what appears to be an external port in the same location as the XM157.
Though we lack a view of the left side we can see it has a pad of controls located just behind the objective. Power supply is also likely on the left side probably a pair of CR123 like the xm157.
One difference here is this seems to lack a magnifying turret ring. Perhaps it’s just hidden. If it’s a fixed magnification that might limit it’s potential applications
Are those to be fired by blank cartridges or the bullet trap variant (the ones that uses ball ammo instead of blanks)?Various types of rifle grenade rounds: anti-armor, thermobaric, smoke, illumination, even a rappelling hook.
Think there are some significant differences between the two. The optic used on the Chinese one seems to be an upgraded derivative of the QBZ-191's QMK-152 / 171A 3X scope by appearance, which would make sense if the PLA / NORINCO have any plans of producing / issuing these scopes at scale.
Now if they were trying to go for a complete "replica" of the XM157, they could have easily done so by using a domestic 1 to 1 clone of the LPVO instead, considering Vortex literally produces/outsources products of this line in China and the countless available OEMs and companies that make decent clones of the LPVO (many of which are used by the PAP). The choice to use what looks like a considerably different optic (potentially based on the PLA's standard QMK-152) likely suggests of some differences in design / role, and that most of the "imitation" was probably focused around the mounted fire control system rather than the entire product itself.
Also, considering the efficiency of the Chinese military / arms industry, it would be really funny if the PLA started fielding these "clones" before most US units did with theirs, given just how slow they have been in fielding these scopes.
If that's the case, I do wonder what the price is for one of these. The XM157 costing 10,700 a piece is absurs until I read that they US has a 2 billion dollar contract for these. Absolutely insane money spending right there. That's like more than 6 times the budget for the PLAGF.
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