I do wonder whether the pla has a semi-automatic 7.62/lapua gun
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This looks like such a fantastic 7.62 gun which China seems to be lacking right now. I'm not sure why they didn't adopt something like this.
isnt that the gun that was supposed to compete with the qbz-191?
TerraN_EmpirE
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it’s not the only option. But something to point out is going bigger for a larger caliber often brings issues. You point to (7.62x70mm) .300 lapua magnum for example. There are German AR10s in that caliber but it’s a beefy cartridge with a beefy rifle as a result. 11 lbs unloaded. That’s before an optic, bipod and oh yeah ammunition. At that weight it would be better issued in place of a bolt action Sniper rifle than a DMR.
They could, assuming that it’s even in production. Besides it’s not entirely the only way to adopt that form. It’s a question of what you want from your DMR.
Looks good but have to wonder about how it shoots. SCAR H for example is notorious for breaking optics.
7.62x51 is the default western DMR cartridge but that’s mostly as it’s the most well known most established. Same for the Russian 7.62x54R. It wasn’t chosen for SVD because it was the best option but because the Services in question on both sides chose the off the shelf in established inventory solution. Yugoslavia when they set to design their DMR back in the 1970’s chose 7.92x57 Mauser. Primarily again as that was what they had on hand and established with stockpiles from before the Second World War until that point.
If you Start redrawing the requirements you could make a better option. For example if all you are worried about is precision and range then you could adopt a cartridge like 6.5x39mm like the Grendel cartridge. Your DMR could even be built out of a modified QBZ191. It would trade off penetration but it would be a soft shooter with plenty of range.
If you want penetration for AP then you need to up the mass though so that would lend to a larger cartridge. 6.5x48mm Creedmoor for example gives you the combination of range and power but reduced recoil especially when combined with a suppressor. Minus accessories you could get a 9lb weapon with a 20” barrel less with shorter barrels.
Not quite sure. The NAR seems to have been created possibly as an alternative but it looks like it’s being pushed as an export oriented system. A SCAR for nations with whom the US and Belgium probably won’t be selling weapons.
I can understand why the military didn't ask for the Picatinny rail handguard why the police or swat? Also, why the right-side charging handle for the SMG? To not snag on the gear? This is coming after years of using an upgraded type 79, I'm gonna guess the police, swat, or PAP will be purchasing after-market attachments soon.
Did anyone notice this? A lot of the new weapons coming out and came out recently have a triangle-like design in their receiver. The new assault rifle haves them, the new machine gun haves them, and the new snipers also have them. I personally really love the design and it would seem China finally have something unique to their firearms or at least I haven't seen it elsewhere.
Also, cmon Norinco, make an 8.6mm DMR.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
It’s reinforcement for the receiver. Basically they create “ribs” in the structure that allow thinner material elsewhere. It’s not unheard of. The American Defense Manufacturing PRC(Precision Rifle Chassis) 700SA, CADEX series, MDT ACC, AI AX Chassis have something similar.
An 8.6mm DMR would be to heavy for standard issue. Better suited to replace a Full Sniper rifle.
An 8.6mm DMR would be to heavy for standard issue. Better suited to replace a Full Sniper rifle.