PLA Small arms

TC and Gunner have one and both look like some kind of HWS on top and suppressor.
The Holographic weapon sight is kinda interesting for some reason it reminds me of the MARS. It looks bigger than the normal Eotech perhaps it has a cover on it.

In the west one of the drivers of the PDW craze was for a smaller weapon to give armored vehicle crews. The AKS74U came about for the same reason. Smaller easier to carry. The Type 05 with a Suppressor should be about the same length as this SMG with suppressor and it’s stock retracted. I can only figure that the one thing this would stand out from the 05 as having it’s that sight.

If the following Oct. 1st parade lineup is accurate, the new rifle may be called the QBZ-171.

Seems like it is a carbine designed for tank and armor vehicle crews.

SinoSoldier said:

QBZ-171.

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Josh Luo said:

Seems like it is a carbine designed for tank and armor vehicle crews.

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So not a new rifle like the CS/LR17?

Josh Luo said:

Seems like it is a carbine designed for tank and armor vehicle crews.

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Why do you say that?

Because of 车组用? I think that just refers to the vehicle borne contingent of infantry who are part of the parade.
新式步枪 simply means new type rifle.

If those images are true, then it just means that only the vehicle borne infantry contingent part of the parade will be equipped with the new type rifle, whereas the rest of the (preceding) infantry contingent will be equipped with Type 95-1s (with one contingent being equipped with Type 03s)

The fact that it is deliberately written as "QBZ-171" also suggests to me that whoever made that image specifically wanted to point out it is meant to be an assault rifle.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

TC and Gunner have one and both look like some kind of HWS on top and suppressor.
The Holographic weapon sight is kinda interesting for some reason it reminds me of the MARS. It looks bigger than the normal Eotech perhaps it has a cover on it.

In the west one of the drivers of the PDW craze was for a smaller weapon to give armored vehicle crews. The AKS74U came about for the same reason. Smaller easier to carry. The Type 05 with a Suppressor should be about the same length as this SMG with suppressor and it’s stock retracted. I can only figure that the one thing this would stand out from the 05 as having it’s that sight.

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Do you think it makes more sense for the crew to use SBR or SMG? I feel that the calibre of an SMG is a bit anemic on the battlefield.

Dfangsaur said:

Do you think it makes more sense for the crew to use SBR or SMG? I feel that the calibre of an SMG is a bit anemic on the battlefield.

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For all intended purpose it might fire the standard 5.8x42mm rifle. But if it is a PDW type weapon as many suspect it is, it will fire a armor piecing round, which will most likely be the 5.8x21mm. But even that might be anemic, as the closest performing round of that type the 5.7x28mm packs much more propellant into the cartridge.

by78 said:

Looks like a submachine gun for Type-15's crew.

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This was the post I was responding to when quoted. So keep that in mind I have no idea what this QBZ171 is. Please note I did delete two images from it to allow me to post my own images.

Dfangsaur said:

Do you think it makes more sense for the crew to use SBR or SMG? I feel that the calibre of an SMG is a bit anemic on the battlefield.

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depends on where you are fighting and what you are doing really. The main aim is a compact weapon that could be deployed in a hurry. Although the rifle caliber brings some anti barrier/level 3 armor penetration. A SMG vs forces that aren’t armored is just as valid. This isn’t a main weapon its a fall back weapon. Some armies just give such troops pistols, some SMG’s some a carbine.

Viktor Jav said:

For all intended purpose it might fire the standard 5.8x42mm rifle. But if it is a PDW type weapon as many suspect it is, it will fire a armor piecing round, which will most likely be the 5.8x21mm. But even that might be anemic, as the closest performing round of that type the 5.7x28mm packs much more propellant into the cartridge.

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All evidence is this is a 9mm SMG. The magazine is far to small for a Assault rifle ammo type.
In fact we have seen the weapon I was commenting on openly. The CS/LS7

It compact, and survivable as a weapon. The photo shows a Holographic weapon sight and suppressor.
My point was it was unusual that they seem to have moved to this rather than this the QCW05 SMG/PDW that we have seen in PLA service the LS7 uses 9x19mm the 05 uses 5.8x21mm

Both weapons have a suppressor. Then you contract the stock both weapons should be about the same length, around 20 inches width and height in overall package with or without suppressor. But the 05 lacks a rail system.
And both would be without suppressor slightly smaller than a QBZ95 carbine. Which is what about 25 inches.

Which would obviously have longer range and more “Power”.

Again in relation to the above post.

The CS/LS7 doesn't appear to be equipped with a suppressor, the black part seems to be the gun sling.

Also, as a FYI, the QCW05 suppressor, while detachable, is serial-paired with the gun.

Looked like one to me but I’ll take your word the image is a little low res because of the lighting.

Still in length the two would be about the same with suppressor off and stock retracted. The suppressor could be stowed in kit.