That’s a Russian t5000 I believe.A PAP group photo... Note the modified upper for QCW-05. Do we have a name for the sniper rifle held by the guy on the bottom row, second from the left?
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MwRYum
Major
That sniper rifle is the ORSIS T-5000, size wise that should be the 7.62mm version; SMG should be the CS/LS2, as we know the PAP use the 9mm for their pistol ammo.A PAP group photo... Note the modified upper for QCW-05. Do we have a name for the sniper rifle held by the guy on the bottom row, second from the left?
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So...a grenade launcher, an anti-materiel rifle, a bolt-action precision sniper rifle, 2 semi-auto shotguns...in addition to the SMGs and ARs, this group packs some serious heat.
by78
General
I'd like to see a flamethrower to round out the firepower.
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Weirdly enough, flamethrower and other incendiary device are under the purview of PLA chemical defense troops. I wonder if PAP has kept that tradition.
Shoehorning a different round into a gun made for a completely different one tends to yield less than ideal results.
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the gun. Sights are changeable and lefties can suck it up. The gun shoots a lot smoother with its intended subsonic 5.8mm ammo.
MwRYum
Major
Something tells me "Gun Jesus" needs to take a trip to China, especially their annual police gear trade fair in Beijing...there he should find China is moving away from all those "rubbish bullpups" designs and "into the light" so to speak with conventional layout designs.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
1) they never really moved away from it.
2) he owns a Famas of his own. He actually well not praising offered a fair assessment of the Type 97.
2) he owns a Famas of his own. He actually well not praising offered a fair assessment of the Type 97.
According to FYSPD on weibo (an ex Shanghai PD SWAT), the loose iron sight was a real and issue, which is why all of them were replaced with a scope at the first opportunity. Also 9mm version JS2 was chosen over qcw05 and type07 helix because it was the least bad of the three.
As a cheaply made bullpup openbolt blowback submachine gun, it certainly won't be awful, most likely just spectacularly below average, which is reflected in this video. On the topic of smg, the three new SMG options for Chinese SWAT look better than before .
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Ian is a southpaw, so hates guns that can’t shoot leftie.
Also, from watching quite a few of his videos over the years, I get the distinct impression he has particular tastes when it comes to weapons.
He likes rare and unusual designs, and unfortunately that does colour his reviews somewhat.
Nothing wrong with that, as he tailors to the American collector market mainly.
However, what he and his target demographic doesn’t care much about are the design characteristics most valued by the PLA - robustness and reliability as well as affordability.
The PLA doesn’t want gold plated extra platinum editions, they want a gun that works, keeps working and is cheap enough to make a million at a time without breaking the bank. And that is precisely what modern PLA service weapons deliver.