PLA next/6th generation fighter thread
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F-35 is still not fully operational... how can you think that USA six generation will be full operational before China have their six generation? Rate of development right now is on China side big time.
AI would not operate with full free reign, there will be certain conditions hardcoded into it and they will be identified through synthetic (simulated data) and real data. Current implemented and widely used AI models dont entirely work like our brain does, people often mistake that it does, there are similarities but also lots of differences, but all that will be the next generation of AI. Simplest example is your brain can learn something just by seeing it, while AI needs to be trained on hundreds and thousands of images or that specific information to learn all that.here is one good video to explain a bit more technically how all that works in AI.
Major countries are striving and racing towards that goal of next-gen AI and obviously it will have alot of implications for defense and world in general. This is also why the supreconductor war is so critical. The most interesting of things will be the generation of AI after the next, where all those aritifical brains are connected through network and learn from each other. Imagine if all billions of humans have their brains networked to each other forming a single unified collective intelligence. Interesting times ahead and with exponential pace of technology and us taking good care of our health, we may just live to see it, remember everyone, carbs are the real baddies.
I'm aware of that. The current deep learning AI is more like really fancy mimicry.
All those data feed to it also have to be carefully pre-selected and sanitised first.
The current models cannot learn without supervision, party due to people fearing unexpected behaviors because current models are way too large and complex to be understood by any person or committee.
After learning is completed they are put into input/output only mode with internal parameters forbidden to be altered by novel data.
So I consider them as specific problem aids rather than true A.I.
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Are they? Maybe in engine technology. But definitively not in airframe design, electronics, and the like.
It is hard to compare with something which isn't even out yet.
Yes it is. Especially over the Pacific Theater. Still it is not as critical as with the short legged F-35 and F-22.
Drones are highly susceptible to EW. Until someone makes autonomous drones a reality instead of just a concept this won't change.
There are plenty of propulsion technologies to make that a reality. From the UK's SABRE engine, to current work on detonation engines.
This is the US. The land of vaporware. Nevermind about the current version, because the next yet to be released, yet to be developed version is going to be all better.
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I know it has the typical SCMP-taste, and you know my point of view towards "PLA related news & SCMP"!
But usually I rate "Iron Lady" quite trustworthy: Anyway, IMO highly unlikely the 6th Gen fighter, sounds more like a concept if true. demonstrator.
But usually I rate "Iron Lady" quite trustworthy: Anyway, IMO highly unlikely the 6th Gen fighter, sounds more like a concept if true. demonstrator.
I can't access the two articles on 05-29-2024 from the journal due to restrictions, but there does seem to be two published that day in that journal. If anyone can get access, I'd also like to read the paper.
It's unclear to me how far along China's "6th gen" program is, but it looks like both NGAD and F/A-XX are in trouble (or at least going to be delayed for a long time) due to budgetary constraints
So now, you have China kind of sitting pretty with J-20 program going pretty well and likely getting further updates after J-20A making it relevant until at least 2050.
I see that Rick got interviewed for
where Brendan Mulvaney, the director of the U.S. Air Force’s China Aerospace Studies Institute, seem to be having some real copium for the progress of China's 6th gen program (given where NGAD is going)
But still, the question is this. If USAF is going to have a delayed entrance for NGAD due to funding issues, where does that leave PLA? I'm not saying PLA does thing to just keep up with USAF. If USAF and USN are stuck with some combo of F-35A+F-15s and F-35Cs+F-18s until at least 2040 (with what looks to be minimal "6th gen" participation), it seems like the threat profile facing PLA is less than otherwise expected for Westpac scenario.
Do we have PLA that slows down "6th gen" and put greater focus on unmanned options?
So now, you have China kind of sitting pretty with J-20 program going pretty well and likely getting further updates after J-20A making it relevant until at least 2050.
I see that Rick got interviewed for
where Brendan Mulvaney, the director of the U.S. Air Force’s China Aerospace Studies Institute, seem to be having some real copium for the progress of China's 6th gen program (given where NGAD is going)
But still, the question is this. If USAF is going to have a delayed entrance for NGAD due to funding issues, where does that leave PLA? I'm not saying PLA does thing to just keep up with USAF. If USAF and USN are stuck with some combo of F-35A+F-15s and F-35Cs+F-18s until at least 2040 (with what looks to be minimal "6th gen" participation), it seems like the threat profile facing PLA is less than otherwise expected for Westpac scenario.
Do we have PLA that slows down "6th gen" and put greater focus on unmanned options?
These are good questions but in mind of the simply disastrous and sobering television debate yesterday, I don't know what to expect in the coming years: one is a more than senile old man who is hardly in control of himself and the other is a pathologically egocentric egoist, narcissist, liar and convicted felon ... either way, I think difficult times are coming for us and especially the USA.