Equation
Lieutenant General
Harassment? You mean China is not allow to do FON OP in international waters?
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I'm fairly sure that Japanese and 7th Fleet motto should be "the most common beginning of disaster was a sense of security".
And that's exactly opposite of what you should aim at.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Insecurity to the point of destructive paranoia is a common disaster all on its own. So does that mean the US 7th fleet and Japan needs to rethink about the changing world around them?
I'm not sure what you are trying to get at and how that relates to the topic of the Chinese Navy's exercises at hand.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Look Janiz the location of the exercise is Miyako and if you look at the map It is the strait between Taiwan & Okinawa. It is international water .So there is nothing wrong with Chinese navy passing thru the straits while they are doing the exercise
Taiwan is inherent part of Chinese nation it is now separated leftover from unfinished civil war. But thru its long Chinese history, the country will eventually be reunited. It happened many time in history. China has passed anti secessionist law that put condition when they will resort to force . As long as those condition are met there will be peace. But nothing is guarantee so they have to prepare for any eventuality. Now who is putting the road block for reunification?
Anyway here is the video of the exercise
Indeed, and there's nothing wrong with placing US Navy's entire strike group in the Taiwan Strait.
As I said earlier- at least they don't push that through the Tsushima Straits as there would be South Korea, Japan, US and later on Russians to keep it down. It's so unrealistic scenario that as I wrote earlier - they could do that in other parts of the world with a much bigger chanses of success. It's so stupid that there couldn't be any meaningful training aside from mobilising 7th Fleet and JMSDF to watch it. And they did with a force of at least 3 Arleigh Burkes with at least 2 additional JMSDF vessels. A force that would be hardly breakable in case of war for entire PLA forces combined.
Are you suggesting that it's not in the Chinese Navy's interests to conduct maritime exercises in potentially contested or crowded waters because of the risk of the ships of naval ships from other nations listening in and tracking the exercise?
The risk of being eavesdropped on and observed by a potential foe is a risk everywhere when exercises are done outside of one's own borders, and the risks of being eavesdropped on must be weighed against the benefits of such an exercise and the experience gained from it. Considering the stage of development of the Chinese Navy and the trajectory its surface forces will likely take in coming years, I think it makes a great deal of sense to start conducting these sort of exercises in the region to not only normalize their presence before more ships and bigger ships start entering service, but also to gain more experience for the officers and sailors so they can hit the ground running as their new ships enter the fleet.
After all, this particular exercise (which tbh for the Navy is one of the smaller ones that they've done) had only a couple of destroyers and a refuelling ship and a dozen or so aircraft, but in a few years it'll probably regularly involve larger numbers of surface warships like a surface action group and eventually carrier battle groups, and involving larger numbers of more advanced naval aviation aircraft and probably with air force participation as well, and increasing involvement from rocket forces and strategic support force.
But to reach those higher levels of sophistication they have to start relatively small -- and this exercise that we are talking about isn't exactly coming out of the blue either, it has been preceded by years of other exercises of varying levels of sophistication.
In other words, this exercise is merely an intermediary stage that must be done on the way to an eventual desired level of capability to be attained in the future.
vesicles
Colonel
What?! Why?
With more and more ships-of-the-line being commissioned, the PLAN has been using the 022s less and less for the past few years. They go out for the occasional patrol but otherwise mostly stay in port. They are too specialised for their role and are maintenance-heavy owing to their pump jet propulsion. 2017 should be about the time they start getting mothballed.