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Neurosmith

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I suspect your average PLAGF, PLAN Marine, and PAP grunt is a peasant from the poorest strata of society or is someone who can't meaningly participate in the economic life of urban areas. He is therefore unused to rudimentary modern amenities and incapable of properly handling basic military equipment. The original poster (@QIUSIYU) of this image, for example, is a
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. He's blissfully unaware that most of the images he shares are utterly embarrassing. The contrast is especially stark when you consider that even illiterate
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know how to properly wear a vest. It will be a long time before your average Chinese grunt can perform competently in a modern war because he is still firmly planted in the third world, not yet even at the level of the Afghan Taliban.
That's a consequence of inadequate and/or improper instruction and training, not of the recruit's socioeconomic background. Your average urbanite wouldn't know the intricacies of body armor placement either; it is up to the training programs to get these folks up to par. The fact that this deficiency has persisted for so long and is so pervasive points to inadequate instructors, improper PLA instructional material, or both.
 

by78

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That's a consequence of inadequate and/or improper instruction and training, not of the recruit's socioeconomic background. Your average urbanite wouldn't know the intricacies of body armor placement either; it is up to the training programs to get these folks up to par. The fact that this deficiency has persisted for so long and is so pervasive points to inadequate instructors, improper PLA instructional material, or both.

It's mostly down to the strong peasant DNA of the Chinese military, which will take a long time to clear. Peasant instructors teaching peasant recruits, what could go wrong? You get a peasant army who can't even wear vests properly. It really is as simple as that, so no need to overthink with (mild) political correctness in mind.
 

Iron Man

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It's mostly down to the strong peasant DNA of the Chinese military, which will take a long time to clear. Peasant instructors teaching peasant recruits, what could go wrong? You get a peasant army who can't even wear vests properly. It really is as simple as that, so no need to overthink with (mild) political correctness in mind.
This is almost certainly a failure of training starting from the sergeant on down. The shoulder straps on almost all plate carriers are adjustable which means there is no excuse for not having the top of the plate carrier sitting at the level of the clavicle. Though I have to say I tend to agree with the general lack of understanding of the Chinese population regarding military hardware, including plate carriers and how they are supposed to be worn, whereas in the US you can buy plate carriers like candy (I own two sets myself), and the martial nature of gun nutters in the US pretty much ensures they know exactly how to wear them LOL.
 

by78

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This is almost certainly a failure of training starting from the sergeant on down. The shoulder straps on almost all plate carriers are adjustable which means there is no excuse for not having the top of the plate carrier sitting at the level of the clavicle. Though I have to say I tend to agree with the general lack of understanding of the Chinese population regarding military hardware, including plate carriers and how they are supposed to be worn, whereas in the US you can buy plate carriers like candy (I own two sets myself), and the martial nature of gun nutters in the US pretty much ensures they know exactly how to wear them LOL.

I don't disagree, but the poor training and instruction are a symptom of low quality recruitment over a very long period of time, which will take quite some time to improve.
 
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