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by78

by78

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Some images from this year's Sino-Russian joint naval exercise/patrol.

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kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

Colonel
BoraTas said:
I don't think so. But I believe Chinese carriers will be significantly bigger than American ones. The US carriers are stuck at 100,000 tonnes not because it is a tactically magical number. It was a constraint induced by the US shipbuilding industry, which has been on a decline since 1950 and practically non-existent except for warship building for the last 35 years, and the Panama Canal. In fact, even for Nimitzes and Fords the US currently has a single drydock that can be used for building them. This is why they are after light carriers and VTOL aircraft. They can't build CVNs fast enough. Both Nimitz and Ford classes max out the Panama Canal.

To compare, the drydock that built the 003 had 3 more ships in the dock. The 003 was the smallest of the three. There are dozens of similar drydocks in China. There are no limitations induced by the Panama Canal too.

To sum up, I expect two things:
1- Chinese carriers will grow beyond 100,000 tonnes, significantly.
2- There will be no Chinese version of USS America. There is no point in mini carriers and VTOL as long as you can afford bigger ones.

Despite all of this I think stuff like 3 runways or 8 catapults are not practical unless you have a $50 trillion economy and you are planning to base 2000 fighters in oceans.
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China's GDP is estimated to hit $50T by mid to late century actually but yes I seriously doubt anyone will be building a carrier with 3 runways. The ROI is just not there nor needed.
Sortie rates is what matters and as long as you can maintain a predetermined flight tempo and acceptable sortie rate, I would say the Ford class is about as good as it gets. PLAN may built a class that rivals or even exceeds the Ford but I doubt it will be that much bigger. Maybe 125-130 tons max. By then newer technologies may slowly render carriers obsolete too just like the battleships of yore... who knows!
 
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antiterror13

Brigadier
kwaigonegin said:
China's GDP is estimated to hit $50T by mid to late century actually but yes I seriously doubt anyone will be building a carrier with 3 runways. The ROI is just not there nor needed.
Sortie rates is what matters and as long as you can maintain a predetermined flight tempo and acceptable sortie rate, I would say the Ford class is about as good as it gets. PLAN may built a class that rivals or even exceeds the Ford but I doubt it will be that much bigger. Maybe 125-130 tons max. By then newer technologies may slowly render carriers obsolete too just like the battleships of yore... who knows!
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Actually China's GDP is estimated to hit almost $60T in 2050 :rolleyes:
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Lethe

Lethe

Captain
para80 said:
Or they simply have no other choice. The Russian fleets are not flush with large combatants.
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I agree that a rapid turnaround from an extended deployment is not actually a reassuring sign. It points to the few large assets Russia has being overworked. Deferred maintenance will degrade material condition, deferred rest, recreation and shore-based training will degrade crew readiness. Of course it also points to the significance Russia attaches to these exercises with China such that they wanted the flagship present.
 
by78

by78

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An official press photo (1st image) marking the 25th anniversary Type 909 test ship Bi Sheng. The image shows an unknown missile being fired from the forward VLS. The same missile was previously seen from a news report back in 2016 (2nd image). Some speculate that this is a sea-based anti-ballistic missile. HHQ-26 perhaps?

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Blitzo

Blitzo

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by78 said:
An official press photo (1st image) marking the 25th anniversary Type 909 test ship Bi Sheng. The image shows an unknown missile being fired from the forward VLS. The same missile was previously seen from a news report back in 2016 (2nd image). Some speculate that this is a sea-based anti-ballistic missile. HHQ-26 perhaps?

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Wow this is a throwback.
Didn't expect they would actually show us a clearer picture of this event.

But yes, we still don't fully know what this thing actually is.
 
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