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As I said on the other thread...this is a good, and hopeful thing to see.
Despite the issues each nation has in the SCS, when you see this, you know that the relations between the two nations are not as horrible as the press and some others would like to paint it.
No way anything like this would have occurred during the cold war.
SinoSoldier
Colonel
A supposed extract from a PLAN paper confirming various projects. Only mentions of publically-known projects were left untouched while the rest were censored.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Ok..so....what am I reading here...some few Chinese characters and a large blocks of rectangular boxes?
Ok..so....what am I reading here...some few Chinese characters and a large blocks of rectangular boxes?
It mentions 055 DDG, 039C SSK, 09IIIB SSN and 901 AOE.
That said I'm not sure about the original context of this paper... for all we know someone could have thrown these designations together and simply blanked out the "rest" of the paper to give the impression that it is real.
Chinese Submarine Conducted Simulated Missile Attack on USS Reagan
Sailors line up on a Chinese nuclear submarine at the Qingdao submarine base in east China's Shandong province. (AP Photo)
By Loren Gutentag | Tuesday, 15 Dec 2015 09:28 AM
The multinational Code for Unplanned Encounters at Sea (CUES), which was once praised as a major step in U.S.-China military relations last year, now doesn't seem to hold much weight as a Chinese submarine conducted a simulated cruise missile attack on the aircraft carrier USS Reagan during a close encounter several weeks ago, reports.
In an effort to prevent accidents or "mishaps," the non-binding 2014 CUES agreement states that commanders at sea should avoid "simulation of attacks by aiming guns, missiles, fire control radar, torpedo tubes or other weapons in the direction of vessels or aircraft encountered."
"Even though China would have been at fault for the incident, the Chinese government would likely then use it as an excuse for initiating a series of attacks or incidents against U.S. naval forces," said Fisher.
He added that the incident, "certainly runs counter to a 2014 U.S.-China agreement to avoid such incidents at sea, which could indicate that China may have little intention to honor such this or other military confidence building agreements."
The Free Beacon reports that "a Chinese Embassy spokesman did not respond to an email request for comment."
By Loren Gutentag | Tuesday, 15 Dec 2015 09:28 AM
The multinational Code for Unplanned Encounters at Sea (CUES), which was once praised as a major step in U.S.-China military relations last year, now doesn't seem to hold much weight as a Chinese submarine conducted a simulated cruise missile attack on the aircraft carrier USS Reagan during a close encounter several weeks ago, reports.
In an effort to prevent accidents or "mishaps," the non-binding 2014 CUES agreement states that commanders at sea should avoid "simulation of attacks by aiming guns, missiles, fire control radar, torpedo tubes or other weapons in the direction of vessels or aircraft encountered."
"Even though China would have been at fault for the incident, the Chinese government would likely then use it as an excuse for initiating a series of attacks or incidents against U.S. naval forces," said Fisher.
He added that the incident, "certainly runs counter to a 2014 U.S.-China agreement to avoid such incidents at sea, which could indicate that China may have little intention to honor such this or other military confidence building agreements."
The Free Beacon reports that "a Chinese Embassy spokesman did not respond to an email request for comment."
Chinese Submarine Conducted Simulated Missile Attack on USS Reagan
Sailors line up on a Chinese nuclear submarine at the Qingdao submarine base in east China's Shandong province. (AP Photo)
By Loren Gutentag | Tuesday, 15 Dec 2015 09:28 AM
The multinational Code for Unplanned Encounters at Sea (CUES), which was once praised as a major step in U.S.-China military relations last year, now doesn't seem to hold much weight as a Chinese submarine conducted a simulated cruise missile attack on the aircraft carrier USS Reagan during a close encounter several weeks ago, reports.
In an effort to prevent accidents or "mishaps," the non-binding 2014 CUES agreement states that commanders at sea should avoid "simulation of attacks by aiming guns, missiles, fire control radar, torpedo tubes or other weapons in the direction of vessels or aircraft encountered."
"Even though China would have been at fault for the incident, the Chinese government would likely then use it as an excuse for initiating a series of attacks or incidents against U.S. naval forces," said Fisher.
He added that the incident, "certainly runs counter to a 2014 U.S.-China agreement to avoid such incidents at sea, which could indicate that China may have little intention to honor such this or other military confidence building agreements."
The Free Beacon reports that "a Chinese Embassy spokesman did not respond to an email request for comment."
Hmmm... what if the US deliberately created the close encounters by sailing close to Chinese territorial waters, wouldn't that also constitute a form of entrapment. Lets assume if China deliberately sail close to the California coast constantly, wouldn't the US will device a countermeasure to repeal such a threat should such encounters turned ugly. I don't know why nations do things that are legally right but morally wrong. A provocation is still a provocation... skirting on the grey line doesn't make the matter any better. I know of so many ways of provoking a man into a violent reaction without even breaking the law.
What does "targeting" mean in this context?Chinese Submarine Conducted Simulated Missile Attack on USS Reagan
Sailors line up on a Chinese nuclear submarine at the Qingdao submarine base in east China's Shandong province. (AP Photo)
By Loren Gutentag | Tuesday, 15 Dec 2015 09:28 AM
The multinational Code for Unplanned Encounters at Sea (CUES), which was once praised as a major step in U.S.-China military relations last year, now doesn't seem to hold much weight as a Chinese submarine conducted a simulated cruise missile attack on the aircraft carrier USS Reagan during a close encounter several weeks ago, reports.
In an effort to prevent accidents or "mishaps," the non-binding 2014 CUES agreement states that commanders at sea should avoid "simulation of attacks by aiming guns, missiles, fire control radar, torpedo tubes or other weapons in the direction of vessels or aircraft encountered."
"Even though China would have been at fault for the incident, the Chinese government would likely then use it as an excuse for initiating a series of attacks or incidents against U.S. naval forces," said Fisher.
He added that the incident, "certainly runs counter to a 2014 U.S.-China agreement to avoid such incidents at sea, which could indicate that China may have little intention to honor such this or other military confidence building agreements."
The Free Beacon reports that "a Chinese Embassy spokesman did not respond to an email request for comment."
Quickie
Colonel
Probably a software fire control simulation with the activation of only passive sensors and certain weapon control mechanisms. To reduce the chances of an accident, all the active sensors would have to be turned off, which, if it's the case, brings up the question how would anyone even knew there was a simulation?
I take such a report with a grain of salt.
China could conduct a simulated attack from hundreds of miles away. Without going active with some sort of sensors, no one would know unless someone simply leaked information.
So all you end up with is unconfirmed reports from unnamed sources usually.
IMHO, this is news hype.
Washington Free Beacon makes some pretty outlandish claims from time to time, as do other outlets.
In this case, both the US Navy and the Chinese government spokesperson basically told the reporters that there was no comment on any such claim.
China could conduct a simulated attack from hundreds of miles away. Without going active with some sort of sensors, no one would know unless someone simply leaked information.
So all you end up with is unconfirmed reports from unnamed sources usually.
IMHO, this is news hype.
Washington Free Beacon makes some pretty outlandish claims from time to time, as do other outlets.
In this case, both the US Navy and the Chinese government spokesperson basically told the reporters that there was no comment on any such claim.
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