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Blitzo

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And yet as it stands it is clearly hypocritical because the basis of China's allegedly legitimate butthurt is the interpretation of EEZ as conferring the owner the right to regulate foreign military activities which China has violated just as US has. The frequency of violation on either side is not relevant to the fact of mutual violation and therefore hypocrisy if one side claims that the other cannot spy in the same manner that oneself is spying.

I don't disagree with this and I haven't made any statements that are contrary to what you've described.

I was talking about why China sees the need to regulate foreign military activities in its EEZs, and I believe that has to do with the strategic military balance and military positions of both sides respective to their important centers.


And yet this is an "interpretation" all your own, something China has never articulated. Ever.

Yes.
I do not believe China's own explanation for why it takes its position on the EEZ matter is a sufficiently detailed one, and it is necessary to look deeper for why China has taken the position it has.
 
LOL I see my post Yesterday at 1:10 PM
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Hai Ce 3301 is a Chinese surveying ship owned by the State Oceanic Administration. The past week, it has been operating in waters off Guam.

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triggered some discussion here; I skimmed through it and saw 'spying' and 'spy ship' mentioned, so I add later yesterday I read the ship had been there for reasons described in officially looking document
“海测3301”起航 赴马里亚纳海沟执行科考任务
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which google translated as:
With a whistle sounding, the State Oceanic Administration South China Sea Branch "sea test 3301" ship slowly left the mother of Guangzhou. In the next 60 days, the expedition team will conduct a large-scale, comprehensive scientific investigation into the southern Mariana Trench to explore the seabed, suspended and benthic organisms.



The expedition was led by the South China Sea Branch, the State Oceanic Administration Third Ocean Research Institute and Xiamen University to participate in the implementation. The entire voyage plans to sail more than 13,000 nautical miles, the survey area covers an area of about 127,000 square kilometers, set up more than 150 stations, operating depth of 7000 meters, is expected to get 6 meters deep seabed sediment samples.



It is reported that the Mariana Trench is located between the Philippine Sea plate and the Pacific plate, the coastal waters of the terrain is complex, the depth of change is very large, there are exposed to the ground of the island, there are tens of thousands of meters deep trench, ridge of the ridge, Deep sea basin. The team will carry out a series of tasks such as surface sediment sampling, columnar sediment sampling, suspension sampling, benthic biological investigation and laboratory testing to understand the composition and properties of submarine substances, determination of benthic biomass, habitat density , Species composition, quantity distribution and its community structure and biodiversity. The survey will also lay out time series sediments in the deep seas, which, like waterfalls in water, will continue to collect water sedimentation particles for a year to understand the seasonal variation of sediments.



Chief scientist Chen Liang, the expedition is the South China Sea Branch of the bottom of the investigation project to go farthest, the most difficult part of the deep sea sampling. Deep sea sampling on the winch performance, personnel operation requirements are very high, because the types of sediments, complex submarine terrain, part of the sea and even a large number of rock distribution, coupled with huge water pressure, sampling difficulty than the shallow geometric multiple growth.



This expedition is part of the "Global Change and Sea-Air Interaction" project, which will enhance China's ability to cope with climate change, improve the level of deep-sea ocean research, cooperate with the "all the way" strategy for regional and global marine scientific research contribution.
my point is I don't know if the ship had, or had not, been spying off Guam
 

delft

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I don't agree that it's significantly different or that it's some kind of "payback" for US spy activities. The quality of information obtained may be less, but the actual fact of violation based on your OWN standards is still present. What China needs to do is stop complaining about alleged US violations of its EEZs and build up the logistics capability to spy on the US just as Russia did, e.g. around Guam, Yokosuka, Ryukyu islands, Korean peninsula, and even Hawaii, Alaska, and the Western US coastline. It needs to shed its butthurtness and realize that the US is going to do it regardless of how much China complains, and instead focus on spying just as effectively as well.
There would still be a vast difference where China were to spy as actively on the West, East and South coasts of CONUS: China has no military bases anywhere near US, while US have many bases around China and base there their Seventh Fleet which is similar in size with PLAN.
 
LOL this thread! here's USNI News Guided Missile Destroyer USS Sterett Makes Chinese Port Visit
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A U.S. guided missile destroyer has pulled into southern China as part of a planned port visit with the People’s Liberation Army Navy.

USS Sterett (DDG-104) pulled into Zhanjiang, the headquarters of the South Sea Fleet, on Monday for the port visit and low level interactions with the PLAN, according to a release from U.S. 3rd Fleet.

“During the course of the port visit, sailors will conduct sporting events, ship tours, and a community relations event, along with leadership office calls and receptions with the PLAN,” read the statement.

Sterett’s post visit is the first visit of a U.S. ship to Zhanjiang since 2015 and the first port visit by a U.S. ship to a mainland Chinese port this year.

“This visit is an exciting opportunity to promote maritime cooperation and reinforce a navy-to-navy relationship with our People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLA(N) counterparts,” said Cmdr. Claudine Caluori, Sterett’s commanding officer said on Monday.

The visit comes as the U.S. has stepped up its patrols of the South China Sea and resumed a schedule of testing Chinese maritime claims around its network of its militarized artificial islands through Freedom of Navigation operations.

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) – which is operating with Sterett as part of a two-ship surface action group out of Naval Station San Diego, Calif. – came within six nautical miles of Mischief Reef in the first FON op of the Trump administration.

In addition to the port visit and the FON op, the surface action group has also participated in several regional exercises in the last few months.

The following is the complete June 12, 2017 statement on Sterett’s visit to Zhanjiang.

ZHANJIANG, China – Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Sterett (DDG 104) arrived in Zhanjiang, China, June 12, 2017, for a scheduled port visit.

Sterett’s visit is the first U.S. Navy visit to Zhanjiang since 2015 and the first U.S. Navy visit to mainland China in 2017.

“This visit is an exciting opportunity to promote maritime cooperation and reinforce a navy-to-navy relationship with our People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLA(N) counterparts,” said Cmdr. Claudine Caluori, Sterett’s commanding officer.

During the course of the port visit, Sailors will conduct sporting events, ship tours, and a community relations event, along with leadership office calls and receptions with the PLA(N).

Sterett is part of the Sterett-Dewey Surface Action Group (Sterett-Dewey SAG) and arrived with the embarked command staff of Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 31 and an embarked helicopter detachment from Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 49.

“My staff, the Sterett crew and I are excited to be here and enjoy this port visit in Zhanjiang. Professional engagement with regional navies allows us the opportunity to build upon our existing relationships, as well as learn from each other,” said Capt. David Bretz, DESRON 31’s commodore.

The Sterett-Dewey SAG is operating with regional naval services to conduct routine patrols, maritime security operations, and theater security cooperation activities to enhance regional security and stability in the Western Pacific.

U.S. 3rd Fleet leads naval forces in the Pacific and provides the realistic, relevant training necessary for an effective global Navy, constantly coordinating with U.S. 7th Fleet to plan and execute missions based on their complementary strengths to promote ongoing peace, security, and stability throughout the Pacific theater of operations.
 

Lethe

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In the long term China will likely have to challenge the US in the Americas if for no other reason than to use as leverage in negotiations regarding the US presence in East Asia.

That sort of stuff is for the future, but with Trump doing his best to alienate Mexico, it might be worth cultivating that relationship ahead of time.
 

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The active personnel of the People's Liberation Army and the People's Armed Police nominated seventeen people for the medal.

Notably Dai Mingmeng, test pilot for the aircraft carrier program, and Ma Mingwei, leader of the EMALS project, are among the nominees.
 

kwaigonegin

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In the long term China will likely have to challenge the US in the Americas if for no other reason than to use as leverage in negotiations regarding the US presence in East Asia.

That sort of stuff is for the future, but with Trump doing his best to alienate Mexico, it might be worth cultivating that relationship ahead of time.

China has been focusing on Africa and starting to gain influence in Europe but yes their next stop would most certainly be Latin/South America in the not so distant future especially as US influence starts to wane. It would be imperative that whoever comes after Trump starts bolstering good political and economic ties with S.A again.

Unlike the US, China has the advantage of not being affected as much by immigration, illegal narcotics etc from these countries so those issues wouldn't even be a hot potato for inter-country relationships thus allowing them to concentrate more on the clinical side of things like economy, infrastructure etc.
 
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