PLA AEW&C, SIGINT, EW and MPA thread
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Why should it be? The only time a fight should have matching opponents, as much as possible, is in sporting events. War, or more accurately 'armed conflict', is about life and death and the dead do not rise to fight again another day. So why should any 'armed conflict' be fair?
Correct. But what pepe try to convey is that the conflict doesn't really prove the superiority of the equipment used.
Just like Mauser 96 vs Sabre. You used the rifle and kill a opponent using sabre. Does that prove your Mauser is good in the 90's with better choice of weapon like Carbine and Ak-74?
Or I change it in another way. I used Carbine and killed a opponent using sabre on me. Does it really prove Carbine is good?
But it will be at the expense of target resolutions such as altitude, speed and aspect angle to one's position.
The above source illustrate the main uses of the more common bands. Also keep in mind that we are talking about pulsed system, not continuous wave. Pulses have a beginning and an end to their energy level. As a pulse travel, atmospheric attenuation comes into play and the pulse loses energy on the way to the target. This is a two-way street. The target's body absorb some energy of the impinging pulse before producing an 'echo'. The echo off the target is also a pulse, but now is only a fraction of the energy of the original transmitted pulse. As this echo pulse travels back to the radar, it is also affected by atmospheric attenuation. The further away the target, the greater target ambiguity due to pulse energy loss and if there is sufficient energy loss, the radar may dismiss the echo into the 'clutter' region.
He was 'complaining' about numerical superiority.
Well we were also just going on from the topic of how opponents the West have fought had obsolete and outdated electronics (something of that sort), in turn branching from the discussion on how vunerable or not vunerable Chinese AWACS were...
I think peperez just meant that the Coalition would have had more casualities if Iraq had better numbers assets, not that war should be "fair".
But obviously during conflict, you want to have a huge advantage before actually starting it, that goes without saying.
Passengers are 'cargo'. On an airliner, there are systems that caters to human comfort to as high a degree as possible. I have been a 'cargo' on the C-130 many times and human comfort is web seating, MREs and a curtained urinal/toilet. Non-human cargo aircrafts offers the greatest degree of initial flexibility for customization. It is not a 'bad' or 'wrong' decision to use the cargo aircraft.
about 3 years ago,watching the local chinese channel Phoenix TV,about the russia military built up, among them was rare cabin picture of A-50U AWACS.
all radar operator wear oxygen mask (the cabin was not pressurized),the LRU was mounted in the ceiling.mission consule arranged in vertical, rather horizontal like boeing E-3C.
according to airpower journal, the original choice was TU-224 passenger aircraft,but due to LRU over weight problem, the russian force to choice large cargo aircraft.it possible the next gen. of russian AWACS may opt for passenger aircraft.
中评社北京10月10日电／环球网消息：美国环球战略网10月8号刊登了名为《中国航母预警机》的文章。文章推测中国将为建中的航空母舰配备由国产“运-7”平台加装KJ200相控阵雷达系统的新型舰载预警机。
文章称，中国正将一种类似于曾装备的较大型“空警-200”型预警机的相控阵雷达设备配备在重达21吨、双引擎的“运-7” （Y-7）运输机上。运-7飞机为中国仿制俄罗斯安-24型运输机。中国的“运-7”预警机将承担类似于美国23吨重的E-2型航母舰载预警机作战职责。
4年以前，中国就拥有4架由伊尔-76运输机改装而来的预警机，原型是俄罗斯的A-50s型预警机，雷达采用了中国国产的KJ2000系统，但中国空军则意识到这种基于伊尔-76平台的性能并不令人满意。这导致了在中国同时研制了在运-8中型飞机上装载了更小的系统（如KJ200）；以及在其后中国开始尝试将一架波音737-800型客机改装成一架预警飞机。
到目前为止，中国可能拥有多达3架737型预警机。这些试验成果对比A-50s预警机，其改装效果要好得多。所以，外界普遍认为：更为成熟的运-7飞机将是最可能从中国未来的航母舰队上起飞执行预警任务的选择。并且，运-7更便宜，重量和体型也适于为舰队空中单位提供所需预警的能力。
由于西方禁运，中国不得不自力更生的研发相控阵雷达。国产的“空警-200”型预警机在两年前进入现役，其出口版本达到了单价1.45亿美元水准。这种基于KJ200系统的运-8预警机可携带5名机组飞行人员和大约12名执行预警/指挥任务的指挥员。每次巡航可以连续执行任务约7个小时。另外一种KJ2000雷达系统则能覆盖更远，其范围可达300公里的，电子作战系统被外界认为能够同时为5-10架战斗机提供精确指挥数据，并跟踪敌方几十个目标。
文章在最后认为，从效费比来看，无论是运-7，还是54吨级的四发螺旋桨运-8（基于俄罗斯安-12），或是157吨级的伊尔-76，与79吨级双发波音737-800相比，显然可靠性更差，且维护费用更高。这也是中国的航空公司自1999年以来倾向选择使用波音737-800飞机原因。。
article claim that China is developing new AWACS based on 21 ton Y-7 (AN-24) the size of the aircraft more or less compatible to USN 23ton E-2C.
high cost of maintainance and dependability of KJ-2000,may force PLAAF to select 2 engine jet passenger,possible 737.
文章称，中国正将一种类似于曾装备的较大型“空警-200”型预警机的相控阵雷达设备配备在重达21吨、双引擎的“运-7” （Y-7）运输机上。运-7飞机为中国仿制俄罗斯安-24型运输机。中国的“运-7”预警机将承担类似于美国23吨重的E-2型航母舰载预警机作战职责。
4年以前，中国就拥有4架由伊尔-76运输机改装而来的预警机，原型是俄罗斯的A-50s型预警机，雷达采用了中国国产的KJ2000系统，但中国空军则意识到这种基于伊尔-76平台的性能并不令人满意。这导致了在中国同时研制了在运-8中型飞机上装载了更小的系统（如KJ200）；以及在其后中国开始尝试将一架波音737-800型客机改装成一架预警飞机。
到目前为止，中国可能拥有多达3架737型预警机。这些试验成果对比A-50s预警机，其改装效果要好得多。所以，外界普遍认为：更为成熟的运-7飞机将是最可能从中国未来的航母舰队上起飞执行预警任务的选择。并且，运-7更便宜，重量和体型也适于为舰队空中单位提供所需预警的能力。
由于西方禁运，中国不得不自力更生的研发相控阵雷达。国产的“空警-200”型预警机在两年前进入现役，其出口版本达到了单价1.45亿美元水准。这种基于KJ200系统的运-8预警机可携带5名机组飞行人员和大约12名执行预警/指挥任务的指挥员。每次巡航可以连续执行任务约7个小时。另外一种KJ2000雷达系统则能覆盖更远，其范围可达300公里的，电子作战系统被外界认为能够同时为5-10架战斗机提供精确指挥数据，并跟踪敌方几十个目标。
文章在最后认为，从效费比来看，无论是运-7，还是54吨级的四发螺旋桨运-8（基于俄罗斯安-12），或是157吨级的伊尔-76，与79吨级双发波音737-800相比，显然可靠性更差，且维护费用更高。这也是中国的航空公司自1999年以来倾向选择使用波音737-800飞机原因。。
article claim that China is developing new AWACS based on 21 ton Y-7 (AN-24) the size of the aircraft more or less compatible to USN 23ton E-2C.
high cost of maintainance and dependability of KJ-2000,may force PLAAF to select 2 engine jet passenger,possible 737.