PLA AEW&C, SIGINT, EW and MPA thread

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Banned Idiot
You are forgetting that there are also advances being made in air-defense technology, such as ECCM and ESA tracking radars. The Iraqis and the Balkans head outdated technology on par with what the Vietnamese had, 20-30 years prior.

read: "vietnam"
or should I include bekaa valley in 1980.in both cases israel and USAF did learned there lesson.
 
true a US suffer (not so severe lost)in vietnam.but lost in iraq (1991 and 2002)and balkan theater is zero.

Just attempting to get the facts straight, there were US aircraft losses in at least 2 out of the 3 conflicts mentioned above, even if relatively few:

1991 Iraq War
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1999 Kosovo War, losses included notably one F-117 stealth fighter
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2003 Iraq War
Can't find any semi-reliable estimate. I'd appreciate it if anyone can post any information about this.
 

peperez

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I think they have liimted a AWACS capability with the exception of USA and Russia they aren't that bad.

They have 3 KJ-2000
[qimg]http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/surveillance/KJ-2000c.jpg[/qimg]
B-4042
[qimg]http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/surveillance/KJ-2000e.jpg[/qimg]
B-4043
[qimg][qimg]http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/surveillance/B-4043.jpg[/qimg]
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Y-8J the capability is limited by it is better than nothing and still pretty useful
It has a detection range of 85km (look-down mode) or 110km (look-up mode) against a 5 m2 aerial target, and 230km against a sea surface target. A total of 100 aerial targets and 32 sea surface targets can be tracked simultaneously. Y-8J also has a limited C&C capability. The system can direct up to 6 aircraft to intercept enemy aircraft. The first prototype flew in 1998.
Though it does not have a AWACS capability, it is a AEW. So far 2 have been identified. Though China bought 6-8 skymaster raders.
9281
[qimg]http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/surveillance/Y-8J1.jpg[/qimg]
9301[qimg]http://mil.jschina.com.cn/huitong/surveillance/Y-8J2.jpg[/qimg]

The Erieye used at Brazilian R-99 are a lot better than this. A range over the jungle (a very emitions absorvent environment) of over 150 km (around 300 km over the sea). The array uses side sweep at a combined angle of 240 degrees. I don't think the model used at Y-8J is so limited...

Cheers from Brazil

Pepe
 

peperez

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Just attempting to get the facts straight, there were US aircraft losses in at least 2 out of the 3 conflicts mentioned above, even if relatively few:

1991 Iraq War
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1999 Kosovo War, losses included notably one F-117 stealth fighter
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2003 Iraq War
Can't find any semi-reliable estimate. I'd appreciate it if anyone can post any information about this.

In all these conflicts Coalition Forces operated with a large numerical superiority (around four and even ten to one) and with previous knowledge ofe the frequencies used by their adversaries. It was not an equal fight.

Pepe
 

Baibar of Jalat

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Third world nations do not regularly update weapons electronics to counter jamming techniques, that flawed them when fighting superpowers and other developed nations. A SA 2 shot down a F 15 during GW1, when F 15 did not have growler (ECM) cover. Chinese have learnt the need to operate under heavy ECM. All exercises take into consideration enemy jamming systems.
 

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Banned Idiot
Third world nations do not regularly update weapons electronics to counter jamming techniques, that flawed them when fighting superpowers and other developed nations. A SA 2 shot down a F 15 during GW1, when F 15 did not have growler (ECM) cover. Chinese have learnt the need to operate under heavy ECM. All exercises take into consideration enemy jamming systems.

yes, i read about it,F-15E was shoot down, russian military attache was in the scene salvaging some electronic component,But the aircraft more likey shot down by MANPAD.
 

tphuang

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there was apparently an article on Chinese magazine, where the person interviewed claimed that KJ-2000 has the longest range of all AWACS in the world. It was also said that due to the large size of IL-76, it can fit a larger/more powerful power supply, install a larger radar antenna. That the radar on KJ-2000 is larger than the one on A-50. Anyways, a lot of boasting, but seems like they are pretty confident over its capabilities.
 

Deino

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Does anyone the exact type-designation of both KJ-200 and KJ-2000 radars ???

Cheers, Deino
 

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Banned Idiot
just how many blade antenna on top KJ-200 and KJ-2000? correct me ,each blade antenna represent the number mission terminal ,hence the number of radar operators.
according to the Chinese newspaper,the radar aside from surveillance,also able perform jamming,MTI/SAR .with limited capability due to RF wavelenght.
 
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