PLA AEW&C, SIGINT, EW and MPA thread

ravenshield936

Banned Idiot
So, there is a few photos and more importantly, news, regarding to the high new series. First of all, although no official picture of High New 6, the ASW variant, has come out, we got a model of it (the 3rd picture) and I'm convinced that it looks exactly like the Y-8X photos I just got below. Or maybe this Y-8X is high new 6, I don't know.
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[qimg]http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2562/y8gx6modeloct28ie6.jpg[/qimg]

Also, more importantly, we get an insight into the PLAN purchasing program with this article.
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Basically, PLAN put in an order for 2 High New 6 aircrafts in December of 2005 and they amounted to 400 million RMB. Meaning, each Y-8GX6 cost 200 million RMB or 30 million USD in today's dollar. Pretty cheap if you ask me.

And from the official Shanfei website
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It talks about structural design for high new 6 project's weapon bay, wing structure and tail structure.
P-3C carries mines, depth bombs, torpedoes and I would imagine that High new 6 would do the same. And it also talks about different works for high new 5, high new 4, Y-8C and high new 6 all being finished.

Anyway, more releases on the statuses of the entire High New project. You can see all the Y-8 special planes here. Interestingly enough that the Y-8 AEW for PAF has the name project 021. And you can see that Y-8GX5 is using Y-8F600, whereas Y-8GX3,4, project 021 are using Y-8F400 (I'm guessing that's the case for GX6,7 also) and Y-8C, GX1,2 are using Y-8F200
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shape here is similar
to the c-130
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
Here we go, there are ways to analyze it by physical appearance.

If the rotodome appears to have a band running across and over the disk, then its likely to be a mechanical scanning radar with the array set on both sides. The radar can be purely mechanical in scan, or it can be a linear phase array that can electronically scan only in elevation but not in horizon. The turning of the dome provides the scanning and its revolution rate is therefor the same as the horizontal scan rate.

If the rotodome appears to be fixed and is divided into three parts, then you're likely to be seeing something with a three faced phase array, with the phase array capable of independent elevation and horizontal electronic scan. This may either be a PESA with independent shifters on both X and Y axis, or an AESA working on the same principle.

Balance beam array is definitely either a PESA with electronic elevation and horizontal scanning or an AESA of the same principle. There is no physical room for mechanical parts.
 

challenge

Banned Idiot
boeing already upgraded E-3 sentry with new AESA.
this not only provide greater range,but also abitity to detect and track small RCS target such as cruise missile or stealth aircraft,
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
boeing already upgraded E-3 sentry with new AESA.
this not only provide greater range,but also abitity to detect and track small RCS target such as cruise missile or stealth aircraft,

It does not read or sound that the radar is an AESA. Rather, its the same old radar on the rotodome updated with all sorts of modern components in the backend.

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The E-10 is the one that is getting the AESA.

The only other AEWs with AESA are the Boeing made Wedgetails for Australia, based on 737s.

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Banned Idiot
kanwa,report that after the crush of KJ-200 prototype ,development of KJ-200 AWACS may temporary stop,the aircraft needed more lifting power,speculate either ARJ comercial aircraft or sukhoi twin engine passenger aircraft may be candidate.
one short coming was her electronic,mission consult was heavier than swedish counterpart so was her radar antenna,which is 2 and half meter longer than eyrie.
 

Skywatcher

Captain
The Y-8 is a perfectly capable platform for an AWACS of that size. The problem had to do with frost on the surface of the wing, IIRC. The reason the KJ-200 got delayed was because they had to replace the lost engineers and bring the replacements up to speed.
 

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Banned Idiot
one short coming of chinese electronic industries was miniturasation,problem also plaque russia electronic industries.
kanwa pointed out C-802 and japanese type-91(?) Ashm,has same performance,but the type-91 radar seeker is much more compact and lighter than C-802.
 
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