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How could US Air Power help in Iraq?

Well, it coud turn this:

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Into this in a single day:

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It's been done before, and against much larger forces.

Be sort of a shame too...those are really nice new "Technicals" there. They look like they are right off the lot...probably from Mosul.
 

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delft

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Ambassador Bhadrakumar about the many changes happening and to be expected in Middle Eastern politics:
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Iran warms up to Egypt’s Sisi

The invitation extended to attend the swearing-in ceremony of the newly elected Egyptian president Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi in Cairo on Sunday didn’t exactly come out of the blue. Tehran got five days to mull over the invitation and it decided to depute Deputy Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian, FO’s topmost diplomat on Arab affairs, to represent President Hassan Rouhani who was on a visit to Turkey. It’s been a measured response in diplomatic terms — appropriate but not effusive,

Iran’s ‘course correction’ on Egypt has been under way for some time — putting distance incrementally vis-a-vis the Muslim Brotherhood. This has been Iranian pragmatism at its best display. The Brothers were never quite Iran’s cup of tea, but when Mohammed Morsi won the presidency in the full flourish of the Arab Spring (Iran calls it ‘islamic Awakening’), Tehran felt obliged to warmly welcome it.
Indeed, Morsi took some tentative steps to open up Egypt’s ties with Iran, which had been in a state of deep freeze for decades ever since Cairo offered asylum to the Shah. Iran would have welcomed a must faster pace of the ‘thaw’ under Morsi, but resigned itself to accepting what was on offer from Cairo. The high water mark was Morsi’s visit to Cairo to attend the non-aligned summit.
Then came Morsi’s fall in a coup sponsored by Saudi Arabia, Iran’s rival. The military junta turned to Riyadh for sustenance and that precluded any further Egyptian dalliance with Tehran. The junta’s repression of the Brothers followed and Iran became a mute witness of the ‘Awakening’ being snuffed out cruelly in Cairo.
Some Iranian rhetoric inevitably followed, but under cloud cover, Tehran came to accept that a comeback by the Brothers is not on the cards in a conceivable future and a need arises to deal with the new ground realities.
Thus began the invisible ‘course correction’. It is apparent that the ‘course correction’ has cruised long enough. Tehran gave full-bodied support to the election that has been stage-managed in Cairo a week ago to legitimize Sisi as the new pharaoah. The Iranian Foreign Ministry said last Sunday when Sisi’s victory was proclaimed in Cairo:
“Iran always and in principle considers holding elections as the legitimate right of the people to determine their fate and a step for consolidating democracy. There is no doubt that continuing this trend through the comprehensive partnership of all political parties and currents, specially the real representatives of all Egyptians, will not only be helpful in completing the process of forming national sovereignty, solidarity and unity of Egypt’s civil society, but also leaves its effects on the reinvigoration of stability, security and promotion of the regional status of that country.”
Amir Abdollahian made some big statements while in Cairo this weekend, signifying in unmistakeable terms Tehran’s Iranian overture to Sisi. He underscored Tehran’s eagerness to move forward with Sisi — “We in Iran have assumed that the election in Egypt is a step forward and believe that Egypt won’t return to its previous conditions.” He stressed Iran’s role as a regional power and how its stability and security has implications for the region as a whole.
At a meeting with Sisi, Iran’s DFM stressed Tehran’s “readiness to strengthen cooperation and ties”, while beyond the strictly bilateral plane, he called for an Active role by Egypt in regional politics. Sisi’s stance on a variety of regional issues will be of utmost importance to Tehran — Syria, in particular, where Sisi has delinked Egypt from the Saudi-sponsored ‘regime change’ agenda.
Again, the ascendancy of the extremist Islamic groups in Iraq becomes a shared concern for Iran, Turkey and Egypt. Iran can draw satisfaction, again, that Sisi will unlikely pilot Egypt back for a plunge into the Yemeni cauldron.
However, the highlight of Amir Abdollahian’s stay in Cairo was his meeting with the Saudi Crown Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz al-Saud. He later said the meeting was “constructive”. (here). The meeting is a diplomatic scoop for Tehran.
Riyadh has been flooding Tehran with invitations to senior Iranian officials to visit Saudi Arabia (including Foreign Minister Mohammad Zarif and Expediency Council chairman Hashemi Rafsanjani), but no visit has been worked out so far. Meanwhile, Tehran has been focusing on building up its ties with Saudi Arabia’s GCC partners as well as Turkey and Egypt.
What does this rapid flow of events add up to? Clearly, in a nutshell, Middle Eastern politics is entering an altogether new era with Iran’s integration with the West. In sum, intra-regional politics has surged to the centre stage.
There was a time when the US ensured that Egypt and Iran didn’t draw close together. From all appearance, the US’ influence has waned on the Nile banks. On the other hand, US diplomacy may be acquiring greater flexibility.
The US’ bilateral talks with Iran this week in Geneva have reverberated all over the Middle East, including in Cairo. Meanwhile, the ‘Obama Doctrine’ is also at work. Nothing brings this out more vividly than that the Obama administration is quietly fostering a Saudi-Iranian normalization.
With a successful visit by Rouhani to Ankara and the warming up of Iran-Egypt ties, it is about time Tehran gets around to mending relations with Riyadh. Conceivably, Amir Abdollahian’s meeting in Cairo with the Saudi Crown Prince aimed at preparing the ground for a pathbreaking visit by a senior Iranian official to Riyadh. To my mind, the Iranian-Saudi ‘thaw’ is on the cards, finally. The Middle Eastern politics is tiptoeing toward a paradigm shift.
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Tagged with Arab spring, GCC, Iran nuclear issue, US-Iran engagement.

By M K Bhadrakumar – June 12, 2014
 

delft

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My newspaper opens today with an article about the Dutch internal secret service AIVD not being able to keep an eye on all jihadis returning from the Middle East. It is not helped by the fact that people can travel freely in much of the EU. The occasion of this report is the killing of three people in a Brussels museum by a French jihadi. But the jihad monster was unleashed by Saudi Arabia, US and others sponsoring terrorism against Syria.
 

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My newspaper opens today with an article about the Dutch internal secret service AIVD not being able to keep an eye on all jihadis returning from the Middle East. It is not helped by the fact that people can travel freely in much of the EU. The occasion of this report is the killing of three people in a Brussels museum by a French jihadi. But the jihad monster was unleashed by Saudi Arabia, US and others sponsoring terrorism against Syria.
Delft, do you have a credible link documenting that the US was in any way associated with "unleashing" this particular Jihadist on Brussels?

I mean, can you show us some specific evidence that the US "unleashed" this specific killer?

If you cannot, please do not make such bombastic claims that the US is supporting such terror. Particularly simply because you personally believe there is some kind of cause and effect.

Now...the five Talibans leaders that the US foolishly released may well ultimately be involved in planning terror strikes in the future. If and when sucha future strike is specifically tied back to any of those five, you could then say that the US "unleashed," it. Though I doubt any of those five will ever personally do the killing. They are the type who plan, organize, and then send much younger, indoctrinated foot soldiers to do the terror for them.

But I do not believe this is the case in any event with this individual in Brussels.
 

delft

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Delft, do you have a credible link documenting that the US was in any way associated with "unleashing" this particular Jihadist on Brussels?

I mean, can you show us some specific evidence that the US "unleashed" this specific killer?

If you cannot, please do not make such bombastic claims that the US is supporting such terror. Particularly simply because you personally believe there is some kind of cause and effect.

Now...the five Talibans leaders that the US foolishly released may well ultimately be involved in planning terror strikes in the future. If and when sucha future strike is specifically tied back to any of those five, you could then say that the US "unleashed," it. Though I doubt any of those five will ever personally do the killing. They are the type who plan, organize, and then send much younger, indoctrinated foot soldiers to do the terror for them.

But I do not believe this is the case in any event with this individual in Brussels.
No, my contention is that the sponsoring of terrorists in Syria is a major factor in the development of jihadism outside Syria. This morning the BBC talked with the father of two men, one of which had the choice to study medicine at four British universities, who where recognized yesterday on an ISIS recruiting video from Syria. The father had been unaware that they had gone there.
While the freed Taliban leaders are unlikely to be a threat to any US forces outside Afghanistan the people recruited to fight the government of Syria will, if they survive, be a threat in their home countries when they return, or even in another country as in this case in Brussels.
The World should keep to the rules of the Westphalian peace treaties, also part of the Charter of the United Nations: Don't interfere in the internal affairs of another country. And of course don't sponsor terrorists.
 

delft

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On the British young men, from the BBC website:
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21 June 2014 Last updated at 10:07 GMT
Family 'heartbroken' after British man appears in jihadist film

The father of a British man who has appeared in a video aimed at recruiting jihadists has said he is "heartbroken" his son left the UK to fight in Syria.

In the film, would-be medical student Nasser Muthana, 20, from Cardiff, urges others to fight in Syria and Iraq.

His father, Ahmed Muthana, told the BBC his other son had gone with Nasser, and that someone must be "driving" them.

UK police are trying to get the film, posted by accounts linked to Islamist militant group Isis, taken off-line.

The 13-minute video, entitled There is No Life Without Jihad, emerged on Friday and appears to show six fighters - apparently including three Britons - urging Muslims to join the conflicts abroad.


Sir Peter Fahy, who leads on the Prevent counter-terrorism strategy for the Association of Chief Police Officers, told the BBC 500 British fighters were thought to be in the region and that some estimates put the number even higher, with the true figure still unknown.

It has previously been estimated that 400 - 500 Britons have been recruited by the now-outlawed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), which has a significant presence in Syria and is engaged in fierce fighting with Iraqi government forces.

The BBC has learned that tracking British jihadists fighting in Syria is now the top priority for MI5.

Radicalised

Mr Muthana - whose son Nasser appears in the footage using the name Abu Muthanna al-Yemen - told BBC Wales that he feared his sons would "come back to me in a coffin".

He told the BBC his 17-year-old younger son, Aseel, had also travelled to Syria and that another man in the video was someone he recognised from Cardiff.

Asked about the video in which Nasser appears, he said: "I'm sad that he's gone without telling me he's going. He disappeared and, when I saw it on the television, I thought, 'What is he doing there?'"

He described his son - who had been offered places by four universities to study medicine - as quiet, well-educated and intelligent.

Nasser had left home in November, saying he was going to Leicester or Shrewsbury to study, said Mr Muthana.

"I received a phone call saying that he's in Turkey and that's it." He said he feared his son had now been radicalised.

"I don't think that's Nasser talking, it's someone else is teaching him to talk like this because the attitude of Nasser is 100% completely different," he said.

"Who led them to go there? Is he going to kill or do anything?

"Someone is driving those kids to do this problem. Ask those sheiks to send their sons and daughters to fight. They only send other people's children, making a problem for the whole community."

'Top priority'

The video cannot be verified, but BBC correspondent Paul Adams said it was probably filmed in Syria.

The footage emerged after Isis militants made rapid advances through Iraq in recent weeks, seizing several northern cities and surrounding the country's biggest refinery.

Prime Minister David Cameron has said its fighters are plotting terror attacks on the UK.

Sir Peter Fahy said Britain could not be "naive" about groups such as Isis possibly deciding to attack the West.

"This isn't just a police issue, it's about working with schools, youth organisations, even people in the NHS. It's about trying to get the whole community to identify people who may be thinking about going to Syria.

He added that Mr Muthana's concerns, as the father of sons who had gone abroad to fight, were not dissimilar to those of parents whose children had got into drug activity or gang activity - though their situation was "much more risky".

He warned against "demonising the Muslim community itself" adding that "the vast majority of Muslim people are really worried about this situation and are working with us to try and identify those people that may be at risk".

BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner said MI5 was having to prioritise the greatest amount of its casework on tracking British jihadists in Syria.

Meanwhile, West Midlands Counter Terrorism Unit is investigating the disappearance of a 18-year-old from Stoke Heath, Coventry, following reports that he has travelled to Syria to join Isis.

His family raised concerns after his disappearance in March. He is reported to have posted tweets claiming to be in Syria with Isis.

On Thursday, the UK government "proscribed" five Syria-linked jihadist groups - including Isis - making it a criminal offence to associate with it or give it financial backing.
I added the bold printing of the last two lines. Apparently other terrorist outfits are still all right.
 

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No, my contention is that the sponsoring of terrorists in Syria is a major factor in the development of jihadism outside Syria.

While the freed Taliban leaders are unlikely to be a threat to any US forces outside Afghanistan the people recruited to fight the government of Syria...
So, there is no evidence whatsoever that links the terror in Brussels to the US...only pure speculation and conjecture. It would be good to make that clear when posting such conjecture.

As to the five Taliban leaders not being a threat to US citizens or soldiers outside of Afghanistan...I am sorry, but I believe that to be utter rubbish and nonsense.

These five people were know to be leaders in the Taliban at multiple levels in the run up to 911, when the Taliban was harboring Al Queda.

We also know that four of them were directly involved with Al Queda. That is not speculation, that is reality.

To believe, after enduring the years at Guantanamo, and receiving the heroes welcome they have now received, that they will not resume such positions and such planning is the height, IMHO, of folly and naivete.

But time will tell.

One thing is for sure...if they do, then you can tie the results of any terror attacks they are involved with planning directly to their release by the US.
 

delft

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So, there is no evidence whatsoever that links the terror in Brussels to the US...only pure speculation and conjecture. It would be good to make that clear when posting such conjecture.

As to the five Taliban leaders not being a threat to US citizens or soldiers outside of Afghanistan...I am sorry, but I believe that to be utter rubbish and nonsense.

These five people were know to be leaders in the Taliban at multiple levels in the run up to 911, when the Taliban was harboring Al Queda.

We also know that four of them were directly involved with Al Queda. That is not speculation, that is reality.

To believe, after enduring the years at Guantanamo, and receiving the heroes welcome they have now received, that they will not resume such positions and such planning is the height, IMHO, of folly and naivete.

But time will tell.

One thing is for sure...if they do, then you can tie the results of any terror attacks they are involved with planning directly to their release by the US.
In my post #644 I said that "the jihad monster was unleashed by Saudi Arabia, US and others sponsoring terrorism against Syria", not that these countries were responsible for every jihadi act.

For the time being the Taliban will be concerned in ending the US presence in Afghanistan. They have not yet acted outside that country.

The fact that the Taliban was harboring Al Qaeda does not mean that Taliban leaders knew about Al Qaeda's plans. Also do not forget that Al Qaeda was a child of US intervention in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. 911 happened because Al Qaeda felt betrayed by US. That is called blow back.
 

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In my post #644 I said that "the jihad monster was unleashed by Saudi Arabia, US and others sponsoring terrorism against Syria", not that these countries were responsible for every jihadi act.

For the time being the Taliban will be concerned in ending the US presence in Afghanistan. They have not yet acted outside that country..
Sorry, delft, when you say that someone "unleashes" something on another, then blame falls to the one unleashing it.

A simple example suffices. If I have a Tiger on a chain and go to a park and "unleash" the tiger and it kills a child...I promise you, I would be arrested and held responsible for that child's death. That was the way I took it.

As to the Taliban not operating outside of Afghanistan, when their various leaders helped Al Queda in the run up to 911, both by harboring them, and what's more materially helping them and coordinating with them, they were acting with the enemy that attacked the United States.

The fact that the Taliban was harboring Al Qaeda does not mean that Taliban leaders knew about Al Qaeda's plans. Also do not forget that Al Qaeda was a child of US intervention in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. 911 happened because Al Qaeda felt betrayed by US. That is called blow back.
Nice, delft. A classic, ludicrous liberal spin that somehow the 911 attacks on the US were caused by the US.

No, delft, not even close.

Yes, we in the US helped the Mujahideen fight the Russians and provided them means to do so. That does not equate to a part of that movement attacking the US many years later as being the fault of the US.

Not even a nice try...quite offensive actually.

I pray to God that your own people are never attacked in such a way by these animals, Delft. But I can tell you this...most people in the United States, including myself, would do all we could to come to your assistance if you were...and help you fight back. Not somehow, in a backhanded fashion, blame you for being attacked by them.
 
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