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ZeEa5KPul

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sequ said:
CAATSA doesn't apply to China. $1.3 billion might seem a lot but it is relatively less compared what it used to be thanks to inflation. $1.3 billion in the '80's is something different now.

That's why they haven't taken delivery of the Su-35, because they'll get slapped with CAATSA which would mean less support for the backbone of their airforce (F-16, E-2C) and army (M1, AH-64).
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Not any specific sanction, just the US threatening that aid would have a significant effect. Egypt's defense budget is only around $5 billion.
 
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Deino said:
But that missile was already on offer I think 4 years ago, when Egypt was not even mentioned for the first time in connection to CHinese arms
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Well, they got the Rafale way before that and IIRC they were looking at the JF-17 as well some time ago. The Egypt-China connection goes back decades ago with the F-6/7, K-8 and the Mig-23 swap deal. There are other stuff as well like radars.
 
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ZeEa5KPul said:
Not any specific sanction, just the US threatening that aid would have a significant effect. Egypt's defense budget is only around $5 billion.
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Like in the case of Pakistan, the real figure is much higher. You don't maintain such a large army and airforce with up to a million soldiers in this day and age with just $5 billion.

Even the Turks divide their defence budget over various ministries and the real figure is hidden by a maze of large companies, foundations, institutions and 1000+ defense projects.
 
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sequ said:
Like in the case of Pakistan, the real figure is much higher. You don't maintain such a large army and airforce with up to a million soldiers in this day and age with just $5 billion.

Even the Turks divide their defence budget over various ministries and the real figure is hidden by a maze of large companies, foundations, institutions and 1000+ defense projects.
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I feel this way too, especially with the modernization the Egyptian army gone through when El -Sisi came to power.
How much do you think is the real defence budget of those two(EG, PAK)?
 
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sequ said:
Well, they got the Rafale way before that and IIRC they were looking at the JF-17 as well some time ago. The Egypt-China connection goes back decades ago with the F-6/7, K-8 and the Mig-23 swap deal. There are other stuff as well like radars.
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Agreed, I meant, long before the J-10CE entered theist story

By the way, I tried to compare both to find any difference ... and IMO they look both the same; so my bet is still another one for Pakistan.

PAF J-10CE 22-112 vs J-10CE cn. 9001 at Zhuhai 2024.jpg
 
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