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Cannibals amongst the Syrian rebels.

Savage Online Videos Fuel Syria’s Descent Into Madness

The video starts out like so many of the dozens coming out of the war in Syria every day, with the camera hovering over the body of a dead Syrian soldier. But the next frame makes it clear why this video, smuggled out of the city of Homs and into Lebanon with a rebel fighter, and obtained by TIME in April, is particularly shocking. In the video a man who is believed to be a rebel commander named Khalid al-Hamad, who goes by the nom de guerre Abu Sakkar, bends over the government soldier, knife in hand. With his right hand he moves what appears to be the dead man’s heart onto a flat piece of wood or metal lying across the body. With his left hand he pulls what appears to be a lung across the open cavity in the man’s chest. According to two of Abu Sakkar’s fellow rebels, who said they were present at the scene, Abu Sakkar had cut the organs out of the man’s body. The man believed to be Abu Sakkar then works his knife through the flesh of the dead man’s torso before he stands to face the camera, holding an organ in each hand. “I swear we will eat from your hearts and livers, you dogs of Bashar,” he says, referring to supporters of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Off camera, a small crowd can be heard calling out “Allahu akbar” — God is great. Then the man raises one of the bloodied organs to his lips and starts to tear off a chunk with his teeth.

Two TIME reporters first saw the video in April in the presence of several of Abu Sakkar’s fighters and supporters, including his brother. They all said the video was authentic. We later obtained a copy. Since then TIME has been trying to ensure that the footage is not digitally manipulated in any way — a faked film like this would be powerful propaganda for the regime, which portrays the rebels as terrorists — and, as yet, TIME has not been able to confirm its integrity. Abu Sakkar has not commented on whether the man in the video is indeed him because he is currently fighting on the front lines in Syria, according to fighters under his command. The video became public on May 12 when it was posted online by a proregime group and is indeed now being used as propaganda by regime supporters (and has already been shared 1,115 times on Facebook and has over 46,000 views on YouTube). These 27 seconds of footage provide a glimpse at how brutal the Syrian war has become — and a startling example of how technology appears to be fueling that brutality.

War is rarely anything but violent, but in Syria, where more than 70,000 civilians have been killed in the conflict since it started as a peaceful uprising inspired by the Arab Spring more than two years ago, the savagery has reached ghoulish proportions. And it seems that soldiers on both sides of the war are committing what appear to be crimes of war at least in part so that those acts can be viewed on the Internet. The ubiquity of camera phones and social media are enabling a mixture of propaganda, intimidation and boastful exhibitionism. In this, the first YouTube war, videos have driven the conflict even as they document its horrors.

Many videos from the Syrian battlefield, including the one that shows the man slicing out the dead soldier’s organs, also show the sectarian hatred that many fear is driving the war in Syria, especially the tension between the majority Sunni population and the minority Alawites. Assad is an Alawite; most rebels are Sunni. “Look at the lions of Baba Amr,” shouts the man believed to be a rebel commander in the video, referring to a ferocious battle fought in 2012 between the rebels and regime forces near Homs, “slaughtering the Alawites and eating their hearts.” The anonymous blogger who posted the video on YouTube, attributing the video to al-Qaeda-affiliated Syrian rebel states: “These are the freedoms they want to import to our country.” The man in the video has been identified by another proregime group as Abu Sakkar, who commands the Al Farooq al-Mustakilla Brigade, a 60-man fighting force that is active in and around Homs, about 97 km north of Damascus and near the Lebanese border.

Videos like this prompt a troubling question: How do countries who want to support Syria’s rebels make sure they’re not unintentionally aiding rebels who might commit war crimes? Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are already providing the rebel forces with military aid, and the U.S. is helping with nonmilitary aid. There is an ongoing debate in Washington about whether the U.S. government should provide further aid to the rebels, possibly including weapons. Eating an enemy’s liver may be an extreme example of what appears to be a rebel atrocity, but there is enough documented evidence of extrajudicial killings, torture and desecration on the part of the rebels that it would be near impossible to know for certain who, exactly, are the “good” guys, says Peter Bouckaert, director of emergencies for the New York–based group Human Rights Watch. “In this context, where different rebel groups are fighting alongside each other, and sharing weapons, it’s difficult to control where the weapons end up. It is very likely that some of the weapons will end up in the hands of the likes of Abu Sakkar.”

Brigadier General Salim Idris, head of the Syrian Military Council (SMC), which oversees — according to its leadership — about 90% of the rebel forces, says such violence is unacceptable, and that no soldier under the council’s command would be allowed to get away with such actions. “Look, it is very clear that these kinds of behaviors, this cutting of bodies, is not allowed. If there is evidence that fighters from the FSA are doing something against human rights or international law, they will be brought before the court,” says Idris, referring to the Free Syrian Army, an umbrella name for the anarchic consortium of defected government soldiers, volunteers, jihadists and opportunists that make up most of the opposition fighting force, and nominally pledge allegiance to the SMC. Idris, who has not seen the video, but was told of its existence, questions the value of videos as proof, pointing out that they can be digitally manipulated. Furthermore, he maintains that the SMC has a watertight command-and-control structure in place that prevents these kinds of atrocities. He suggests that if they are happening, they are being perpetrated by the fighting groups not under his jurisdiction. Then he lashed out against Western journalists who focused on the human-rights abuses of the rebels, when “the regime is massacring women and children with knives. Where is international law when it comes to 200,000 martyrs and millions of refugees?”

The video featuring the man believed to be Abu Sakkar is symptomatic of the blend of brutality and technology on the Syrian battlefield. According to several rebels interviewed by TIME, fighters from both sides no longer simply brag about their exploits on the battlefield; they film them and share them, competing in gruesome games of one-upmanship. This trading in trophy atrocities, played up for the camera and passed from phone to phone, has a desensitizing effect, says Rami Abdel Rahman of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a pro-opposition U.K.-based organization that tracks fatalities and human-rights abuses in Syria. When a 13-year-old boy is filmed beheading a man and when footage of rape, torture and amputations are passed like trading cards, it escalates the cycle of honor-driven revenge, as each atrocity, so publicly shared, demands a response from the opposing side, according to Nadim Houry of Human Rights Watch. “When people see these acts of brutality and mutilation, it leaves deep scars, and there will be a temptation to replicate it in revenge,” says Bouckaert. “An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. Quite a few fighters in Syria interpret that literally.”

Rahman says violent videos are showing up with increasing frequency. “I’ve seen hundreds of videos like that from both sides,” he says. “They cut off limbs and heads. They cut out hearts and livers, ears and tongues. They cut off private parts and put them places. It’s abnormal. It’s inhuman what is happening.”

The apparent rise of such incidents — or at least their documentation — is an indication that the Syrian conflict is going in a very dark direction. And it could get worse. Many Syria scholars say the regime — and the war — could last for years.

There are no good options for the international community. Western intervention on behalf of the rebels could exacerbate sectarian tensions. Foreign boots on the ground could incite an Iranian response in support of the regime, which it backs, sparking a wider regional proxy war. Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has encouraged all jihadists to join in the fight against the Syrian regime; further instability, with its rich recruitment pool and increased lawlessness, is the terrorist group’s ideal incubator. And as more horrific videos emerge, the rebels may find it harder and harder to persuade the international community that they represent the best bet for a country descending ever further into chaos.

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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Something like this was pretty much inevitable as soon as Turkey decided to pick sides and actively meddle and add to the internal strife of a neighbour. This is hardly a new or unforeseeable phenomenon, the Americans even have a special term for it called 'blowback'.


Something like this was pretty much inevitable as soon as Turkey decided to pick sides and actively meddle and add to the internal strife of a neighbour. This is hardly a new or unforeseeable phenomenon, the Americans even have a special term for it called 'blowback'.

Doesn’t matter which side Turkey picks it was always going to be the loser, it’s a catch 22 for Turkey, the Sunni rebels are in the Northern Cities, much closer to Turkey than the Shia dominated governmental south, if Turkey stood by the Assad regime today we would see bomb blasts in all major Turkish cities

As said it a few weeks ago, PKK and Turkey are now at peace, last week 12,000 PKK fighters left Turkey, the 30 year conflict is over, finally, no more war between Kurds and Turks, this peace deal is from the highest levels, so will hold 100%

Turkey has a finite patience, if these bombs keep going off inside Turley and Turkish citizens are killed Turkey will mobile its forces no question about it, and when that happens we will see a full scale Turkish military move against anyone who is responsible, Erdogan is already asked military to be on standby, any Greek soldier on Cyprus in 1974 will tell you the capabilities of the Turkish paratroopers who landed on Cyprus and in a matter of days took 40% of the country, the whole reason they are in NATO is because of their outstanding performance in the Korean war, it was the Americans who pushed for Turkey to enter NATO after seeing the valour of the Turkish soldier

Both sides are wrong on Syria, no question about it, both are weak and desperate, but if they try and bring Turkey into this then they can expect a very swift military action from land, sea and the air, everyone in the region needs to know not to under estimate Turkey, that goes for Israel too, its full NATO member, has a 1 million man standing army and they will not stop at anything if they get the go ahead, now they don’t even have the PKK to worry about, and where ever you find Turkey you can expect Pakistan right behind, either militarily or politically
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Turkey and Isreal at was would serve no one but the Jhadist they may have rows but its highly doubtful that a conflict between them would or could occur. Turkey may be a full NATO member but Isreal is no lightweight either. In part conflict the IDF has held and beaten back overwhelming numbers and odds. Both nations have also been armed almost identically. If those two were alowed to fight a conflict. Both would take critical losses over nothing. Losses that would make them both open to attack by Iran .
Right now Syria is a cancer its a growing cancer Isreal is trying to keep it from their border by ensuring that both sides of the conflict are not able to launch actions at their borders. Turkey has taken a side in hopes of using that to stabilise their security sadly in this fight its all about the hope of a lesser of two evils.
Now on to the fleshing eating? You know my theory about African war zones and fighters dressed in drag. Because in a place so crazy the only way to keep fear on your side is to scare the living hell out of your enemy. Of course its easy to fake things these days. I am reminded of a camp fire story. There is a old American western tale about a man by the name of John Johnson. In 1847 they say Crow tribesmen killed his wife (a member of the flathead tribes) John was not to pleased story goes and started hunting Crow. He would kill them and well.. I guess he really loved his wife because you dont get a nickname like John "liver-eater" Johnson for just a sandwich. Word got around and his scalp collection got big. Eventually the Crow decided that they would rather have him on their side. They made him an honorary Cheif and made peace.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Israel rains supreme in only aspect of warfare, thats in the air

It's navy and army have shown many weaknesses from 1973 Sinai to 2006 Lebanon, however the air force itself has it's limitations because they have never really faced a true aerial foe who can fight

Over $1 billion worth of deals have been cancelled between Turkey and Israel after the flotilla incident, which in turn has forced Turkey to build everything indigenously which has been a great benefit

Turkey lies on a region or regions which are very hostile, the situation can become very bad in a matter of minutes, this is why Turkey needs to bolster its military so no misunderstandings occur

A powerful Turkey means Russia doesnt get to excited in the Black Sea, keeps Irans guard high, keeps Greece under the thumb, maintains a balance over the Arab nations and reminds Israel that a powerful country is sitting by and overall keeps stability in the region

The banks, insurance company's and infrastructure projects in northern Iraq are under taken by mainly Turkish company's, Turkey plays a positive role in the middle east and is a perfect model for other nations to follow
 

Franklin

Captain
I would disagree that the Israeli ground forces are weak. In 1973 they managed to beat back the Egyptian and Syrian armies after they got caught off guard in a surprise attack on a national holiday the Jom Kippoer. They were able to turn the tide and even cross over the Suez Canal and where marching towards Caïro. Israel has the worlds fourth largest armoured corps after Russia, America and China. And the Merkava tanks are considered to be one of the world's best tanks and is being produced by Israel domestically. In 2006 the Hezbollah did give Israel a black eye but Israel never went for a full out invasion of Lebanon. If they did then i don't think the Hezbollah would have been able to stop them.

Yes, Israel's navy is a joke their surface fleet consist out of 10 415 to 488 ton missile boats (2 Sa'ar 4's and 8 Sa'ar 4,5's) And another 3 corvettes the Sa'ar 5's. The Sa'ar 5 is a laughing stock as that ship has stability problems at sea and is known to be uncomfortable for the crew. They do have very quiet diesel electric subs. For the past 12 years they got 3 of those and soon it will be 5 and in the future 6 as Israel has made a new order for one more with Germany in 2012. But then all the navies throughout the region are extremely weak and compared to the Syrian and Lebanese navies the Israeli navy is quite strong. The Egyptian navy would be something of a challenge but other Arab navies further a field wouldn't be able to do much to help.

As for their air force never faced a true foe is in part true, however i think that the Egyptian and especially the Saudi Air Force could give them a run for their money. Although the problem there is that those air forces are all equipped with American and other westren planes and bombs. In a war senario with Israel these countries simply refuse to supply this air forces with spares, bombs or even fuel so they cannot last very long in a war with Israel.

Its quite amazing that a small country (8 million people and 20770km²) like Israel can be so dominant in the entire region. they are occupying the Palestinian land for almost 50 years. They can bomb, incurse and lob missile's at its neighbor's at will rather its the West-Bank, Gaza Strip, Lebanon or Syria and no one in the region is able to stop them.
 
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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
I would disagree that the Israeli ground forces are weak. In 1973 they managed to beat back the Egyptian and Syrian armies after they got caught off guard in a surprise attack on a national holiday the Jom Kippoer. They were able to turn the tide and even cross over the Suez Canal and where marching towards Caïro. Israel has the worlds fourth largest armoured corps after Russia, America and China. And the Merkava tanks are considered to be one of the world's best tanks and is being produced by Israel domestically. In 2006 the Hezbollah did give Israel a black eye but Israel never went for a full out invasion of Lebanon. If they did then i don't think the Hezbollah would have been able to stop them.

Its quite amazing that a small country (8 million people and 20770km²) like Israel can be so dominant in the entire region. they are occupying the Palestinian land for almost 50 years. They can bomb, incurse and lob missile's at its neighbor's at will rather its the West-Bank, Gaza Strip, Lebanon or Syria and no one in the region is able to stop them.



the objective of the 2006 invasion was to reach the Latani river and cut off the Hezbollah supply chain, the IDF did not reach the river and did not cut the supply route on the other hand the Merkava was exposed to heavy casualties and almost shut the production line after 40 years, so on that basis they did not full fill thier objective, hence a withdrawal ensued

Israel looks good not because of its power and weapons but because of the incompetence of its neighbours
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
File this under wtf.
As we all know their are smuggling potter running between Egypt and the Gaza strip. Well story goes that alongside the arms and drugs is Chicken Kentucky Fried to be specific. It sells for $30 a bucket.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
File this under wtf.
As we all know their are smuggling potter running between Egypt and the Gaza strip. Well story goes that alongside the arms and drugs is Chicken Kentucky Fried to be specific. It sells for $30 a bucket.

I think you mean Kentucky fried Chicken, I wonder how much extra it is for a large coke with that!
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
No and yes I did type that more or less correctly in that I identified the food and then the brand. Either way you figured it out. The part that was wrong is "potter" the evil spell-check spirit in my phone does that. It should have read smuggler.
Coke would cost more as Kentucky Fried Chicken is owned by Pepsico.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
File this under wtf.
As we all know their are smuggling potter running between Egypt and the Gaza strip. Well story goes that alongside the arms and drugs is Chicken Kentucky Fried to be specific. It sells for $30 a bucket.

$30 per bucket?! It better be darn good chicken for that kind of price.:p
 
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