asif iqbal
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numbers mean nothing if you have monkeys flying the planes
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numbers mean nothing if you have monkeys flying the planes
What the hell are these clowns buying with the third largest military budget on the planet?
They don't need to cover all 2 million km^2 at once, just the key sites. You know, like the single biggest oil refinery in the country...
Operator skill is a huge factor. Having the technical capability to detect is just the first step in a difficult journey towards achieving a kill.
The Russians may not have super reliable stealth yet, but China has had access to plenty of stealth platforms to run tests on (and maybe even share the data with Russia). If they couldn’t reliably track and destroy a stealth target, they would have said so already.
The Russians may not have super reliable stealth yet, but China has had access to plenty of stealth platforms to run tests on (and maybe even share the data with Russia). If they couldn’t reliably track and destroy a stealth target, they would have said so already.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
As with many infamous disasters throughout history, a lack of imagination and expectations is almost certain to have played a key role.
I personally think the success of the strike is as much about the Saudis not expecting such an audacious attack and getting caught with their pants down as much with the brilliance of the execution of the attack.
The Saudis’ procurement choices are also likely to blame, as they have heavily, and often over invested in ‘sexy’ offensive weapons, with little to no regard for key defensive and support systems like SAMs, AWACS, long range early warning radars etc.
I foreseen big ticket purchases of SAMs and early warning radars etc in the immediate future. China’s new AWACS drones might be especially attractive, as they would be ideally suited to detecting low flying drones and missiles, and would be possible to mount continuous, near open-ended operations that would tax manned AWACS fleets to exhaustion.
I personally think the success of the strike is as much about the Saudis not expecting such an audacious attack and getting caught with their pants down as much with the brilliance of the execution of the attack.
The Saudis’ procurement choices are also likely to blame, as they have heavily, and often over invested in ‘sexy’ offensive weapons, with little to no regard for key defensive and support systems like SAMs, AWACS, long range early warning radars etc.
I foreseen big ticket purchases of SAMs and early warning radars etc in the immediate future. China’s new AWACS drones might be especially attractive, as they would be ideally suited to detecting low flying drones and missiles, and would be possible to mount continuous, near open-ended operations that would tax manned AWACS fleets to exhaustion.
China would be the stupidest nation in the world if it agreed to selling AWACS drones to them.
They already burned China hard by taking ballistic missile tech and then handing it straight over to their close ally USA. Luckily, those missiles weren’t in service anymore, but AWACS drones are cutting edge. Selling them to Saudi is like suicide.
They don't talk about date, but as it looks like its happened in this year April.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
So, the Saudi dictator is in war with one neighbour country, and happy to start a war with the biggest country in the region overnight (Iran).
IF the Saudis military is not on high alert now then when they would be ?
The biggest failure of the Saudis air defence was they reliance on the USA war tech, they are not so keen to sell anything that can detect low RCS targets, and the USA doesn't has too much weapon in its disposal for point defence (apart from few Phalanx strapped onto a truck ).
They need non USA produced early radar system, and same capable point defence system.
Most likely a Pantsir/Thor battalion could kill the incoming missiles without any trouble, all of them looks like standard subsonic missile/slow drone.
Designed and built by CNM (French company), don't confuse people to think Saudi Arabia has any sort of indigenous/domestic industrial capacity for such projects...